From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Transposing words over middle words Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 20:05:04 +0200 Message-ID: <83ine8hjcf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871skywvp4.fsf@hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <83o9o2i4xz.fsf@gnu.org> <20171116152231522684703@bob.proulx.com> <23054.41962.848150.764633@mail.eng.it> <23054.42180.139282.82688@mail.eng.it> <6ec7af50-26c3-4a03-8fcd-d389a492db02@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1510941952 13353 195.159.176.226 (17 Nov 2017 18:05:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 18:05:52 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 17 19:05:49 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFl1P-0003Cd-Av for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 19:05:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47183 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eFl1W-0004ph-Qc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 13:05:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38748) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eFl12-0004pR-8F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 13:05:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eFl0y-0000tg-OU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 13:05:24 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35897) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eFl0y-0000tc-Ko for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 13:05:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3341 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eFl0x-00008Q-U9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 13:05:20 -0500 In-reply-to: <6ec7af50-26c3-4a03-8fcd-d389a492db02@googlegroups.com> (message from Rusi on Fri, 17 Nov 2017 08:57:18 -0800 (PST)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:114939 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 08:57:18 -0800 (PST) > From: Rusi > > > Really? That a lone C-u means an arg of 4 is burnt into our muscle > > memory for decades. Compare with "C-u C-n". A command that receives > > a numerical argument normally treats all of its arguments as numbers. > > Breaking that in a single command sounds like a misfeature. > > Org mode (at least) is full of functions for which C-u means change some behavior (C-u C-u changes more) So is Emacs. But AFAIR the rule is: if any argument is treated as a number, then all of them are. By contrast, you are talking about commands where the argument is not treated as a number of repetitions, but as a trigger for some variation on the default behavior, which is not what I was talking about.