From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Selecting tooltip frames considered harmful Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 12:41:28 +0200 Message-ID: <83inam4qlj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5A9135CE.3020802@gmx.at> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1519468790 18021 195.159.176.226 (24 Feb 2018 10:39:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 10:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 24 11:39:46 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1epXF4-0004Bf-4V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Feb 2018 11:39:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49381 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1epXH5-0004l1-Sk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Feb 2018 05:41:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56603) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1epXGS-0004kl-6E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Feb 2018 05:41:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1epXGP-0004St-4q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Feb 2018 05:41:12 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34078) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1epXGP-0004Se-10; Sat, 24 Feb 2018 05:41:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4700 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1epXGO-0007TH-8S; Sat, 24 Feb 2018 05:41:08 -0500 In-reply-to: <5A9135CE.3020802@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Sat, 24 Feb 2018 10:52:14 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:223016 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 10:52:14 +0100 > From: martin rudalics > > (1) Ignore the message in message3_nolog (the ideal solution but maybe > too simplistic). > > (2) Send the message to stderr instead (confusing for plain messages > and hardly suited for 'read-from-minibuffer'). > > (3) Give tooltip frames a minibuffer window of some other frame (with > the usual consequences when trying to delete that frame). > > (4) Try to find a frame with a minibuffer and put the message there > (it might be tricky to find the most suited minibuffer here). > > (5) Avoid that a tooltip frame gets selected (hardly feasible). > > A similar solution should be found when reading from the minibuffer. > > Suggestions welcome, martin I think we should do (1) and document it. Thanks.