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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
Cc: 32189@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#32189: 27.0.50; GCC 7 warning due to -Wformat-truncation=2
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 16:29:37 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83in5b2w1q.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAArVCkRmw4oF3a=UAp1J+CLSoxtdKpx=2KFS032J11nKOzjz+w@mail.gmail.com> (message from Philipp Stephani on Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:21:54 +0200)

> From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:21:54 +0200
> Cc: Ken Brown <kbrown@cornell.edu>, 32189@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
>  Do we really need to use -Wformat-truncation?  Is it a useful warning
>  switch?  The above sounds like useless noise, because the code
>  explicitly _asks_ for truncation.  What do people think about this?
> 
> The typical use case for snprintf is to make sure that the output never gets truncated, so disabling
> -Wformat-truncation would be harmful in most cases.

That might be typical for your uses, but it doesn't mean it is
universally so.  It definitely isn't true for my uses: I use snprintf
to be sure a fixed buffer won't be overrun due to some programming
mistake.  And that is exactly what is going on in that function,
because the maximum expected values of the variables are known in
advance, and the buffer is large enough to accommodate them.

> With truncation, the code will result in nonsensical output if the input value was too large, e.g. 123.4 hours
> would result in "12" if the buffer size were 3.

Since truncation should never happen, except when there's some bug,
this is not really interesting.

> Rather than relying on truncation, the code should probably just use a buffer that's large enough, or use %g
> instead of %f. 

If we need to jump through hoops to stop useless noise about perfectly
valid code, we shouldn't have this warning in the first place.





  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-19 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-17 19:26 bug#32189: 27.0.50; GCC 7 warning due to -Wformat-truncation=2 Ken Brown
2018-07-18 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-18 19:42   ` Ken Brown
2018-07-19  2:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-19  6:10     ` Philipp Stephani
2018-07-19 12:49       ` Ken Brown
2018-07-19 13:25       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-19  6:21   ` Philipp Stephani
2018-07-19 13:29     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2018-07-19 13:56       ` Ken Brown
2018-07-19 14:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-19 23:19           ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-20  6:56             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-20 13:49               ` Ken Brown
2018-07-20 14:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-20 14:27                   ` Ken Brown
2018-07-20 14:37                     ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-20 14:51                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-20 19:34                       ` Ken Brown
2018-07-20 21:03                         ` Paul Eggert

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