From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Change of Lisp syntax for "fancy" quotes in Emacs 27? Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 18:18:11 +0300 Message-ID: <83in29ygng.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y3bc2378.fsf@gnu.org> <834ldvyu7c.fsf@gnu.org> <3d80c389-aa47-008a-c007-3655e8759a04@cs.ucla.edu> <871s8zexno.fsf@igel.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1539184698 12486 195.159.176.226 (10 Oct 2018 15:18:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 15:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 10 17:18:13 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gAGFZ-00037Z-C5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:18:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57806 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAGHg-0005Rt-0P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:20:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38708) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAGFq-0004qo-E1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:18:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAGFl-0001qw-53 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:18:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60103) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAGFd-0001oS-1J; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:18:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1444 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gAGFa-00047v-QJ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:18:16 -0400 In-reply-to: <871s8zexno.fsf@igel.home> (message from Andreas Schwab on Tue, 09 Oct 2018 21:18:51 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:230310 Archived-At: > From: Andreas Schwab > Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 21:18:51 +0200 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, > drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > I'm pretty sure you can find many Russian words that are written with > only Latin-alike letters. I wrote the following toy program: (let ((confusing '(?а ?е ?о ?р ?с ?у ?х)) (buf (get-buffer-create "*confusing*"))) (while (not (eobp)) (let* ((word (buffer-substring (line-beginning-position) (line-end-position))) (chars (append word nil))) (if (null (seq-difference chars confusing)) (with-current-buffer buf (insert word ?\n)))) (forward-line)))) and ran it on a list of 174800 words from a Russian dictionary. The result was 60 words that used only Latin-alike letters. So, not too many, but not just a few, either. Of course, there are many more non-word combinations of the above letters that might look like Latin words. Also note that "confusability" sometimes depends on letter-case. For example, the lower-case "вор" doesn't look like a Latin word, but the upper-case "ВОР" does.