From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GNU Emacs raison d'etre Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 05:28:37 +0300 Message-ID: <83imgq58dm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5230692c-c665-a330-7a12-e59fa25d97dd@gmail.com> <29f65907-affb-481e-82f3-62522a766f69@default> <83sgfybn22.fsf@gnu.org> <1701f0b1-a481-bb45-08b8-99da4a6139fc@gmx.at> <736c1336-58ea-dd1f-18ba-94f902e37f61@yandex.ru> <206d0959-8a6f-ebf9-0230-1cdb41a0c849@gmx.at> <79aa434b-6513-14ff-eb45-ece4ba30590b@yandex.ru> <83eere7jil.fsf@gnu.org> <834ksa7fgy.fsf@gnu.org> <0db86fd4-3add-7863-9102-849a9d270cc3@gmx.at> <83sgfu5vhs.fsf@gnu.org> <8fc4ea19-35ff-5c34-4a25-e1b47ee79e77@yandex.ru> <83pnay5udk.fsf@gnu.org> <83mu625tav.fsf@gnu.org> <0015ade0-d4f9-6ccc-692c-222871251c51@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="104634"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org, rms@gnu.org, andreas.roehler@online.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, kfogel@red-bean.com, rudalics@gmx.at, homeros.misasa@gmail.com, tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp, sorganov@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, arthur.miller@live.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 21 04:29:26 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jbaxZ-000R8s-UB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 21 May 2020 04:29:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39560 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbaxY-0002O9-Tu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 22:29:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46588) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbax2-000147-9I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 22:28:52 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35677) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbawv-0003Hm-WA; Wed, 20 May 2020 22:28:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3300 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jbawo-0000ri-5S; Wed, 20 May 2020 22:28:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: <0015ade0-d4f9-6ccc-692c-222871251c51@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Wed, 20 May 2020 22:22:53 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251137 Archived-At: > Cc: jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org, rms@gnu.org, > andreas.roehler@online.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, kfogel@red-bean.com, > rudalics@gmx.at, homeros.misasa@gmail.com, tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp, > sorganov@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, arthur.miller@live.com, > drew.adams@oracle.com, stefankangas@gmail.com > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 22:22:53 +0300 > > > eval-last-sexp uses prin1 to display the result, so it is not > > affected, as intended. > > But aren't all echo area displays targeted at the user anyway? > > I'm not saying the current behavior is necessarily "broken", but perhaps > we could enhance it further. The intent was to affect messages that are a "surprise" for the user. eval-last-sexp is invoked by the user, so no surprise here.