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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: On obsoleting defcustoms
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 09:46:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83ima9ya07.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53945b2b-cb3f-4823-85e1-ff8676f10161@default> (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 12 Nov 2020 13:37:24 -0800 (PST))

> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 13:37:24 -0800 (PST)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> But if it is, then why would it make any more sense to remove
> customization of an obsolete option that it would to remove
> advising an obsolete function or setting an obsolete defvar?

I didn't say we should remove customization of those, I said we should
not show them in the "customize group" buffer.

> If people are concerned about someone continuing to use
> something that's obsolete, why not just have Customize give
> a warning/message saying that the option is obsolete, and 
> that the effect of changing its value is undefined?

We already say that, since we show the doc string.

> That's assuming that Emacs takes the (unusual, IME) point of
> view that, once declared obsolete, something should no longer
> be usable.

Not "usable", "used".



  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-13  7:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <<CADwFkmm2G=OPOdgadhDk+1uCbHzuqpqaYDs1KgdDes7gXLYgxg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<83lfh743j8.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-11-12 21:37   ` On obsoleting defcustoms Drew Adams
2020-11-12 21:54     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-12 22:16       ` Drew Adams
2020-11-13  0:07         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-13  1:59           ` Drew Adams
2020-11-13  3:10             ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-13  5:18               ` Drew Adams
2020-11-13  8:16             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-13  7:46     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-09-18 13:01 Stefan Kangas
2020-09-18 13:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-18 13:40   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-12 20:56   ` bug#44598: [PATCH] Do not show obsolete options in customize Stefan Kangas
2020-11-12 21:11     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-12 21:39       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-12 22:18         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-13  7:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-12 21:40     ` Drew Adams
2020-11-12 21:44     ` Mauro Aranda
2020-11-12 22:08       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-12 22:41         ` Mauro Aranda
2020-11-13  7:48       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-13  7:40     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-13 17:10       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-14 14:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-20 13:37           ` Stefan Kangas

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