From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46888: 26.1; org-mode add rmail-after-save-hook to after-save-hook Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2021 08:55:35 +0200 Message-ID: <83im68680o.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87im68945c.fsf@host.localdomain> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32902"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 46888@debbugs.gnu.org To: marmot-te Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 03 07:56:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lHLQY-0008Qv-Q6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2021 07:56:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38804 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lHLQX-0001Rj-OJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2021 01:56:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47376) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lHLQQ-0001QB-Gn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2021 01:56:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43469) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lHLQQ-00057T-9W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2021 01:56:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lHLQQ-0004rX-8W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2021 01:56:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2021 06:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46888 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 46888-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46888.161475455518679 (code B ref 46888); Wed, 03 Mar 2021 06:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46888) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Mar 2021 06:55:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55015 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lHLQJ-0004rD-8R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2021 01:55:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57554) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lHLQE-0004qx-Tx for 46888@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2021 01:55:54 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60476) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lHLQ9-0004vA-GV; Wed, 03 Mar 2021 01:55:45 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2494 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lHLQ8-0005sx-CH; Wed, 03 Mar 2021 01:55:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87im68945c.fsf@host.localdomain> (message from marmot-te on Wed, 03 Mar 2021 05:50:55 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:201259 Archived-At: > From: marmot-te > Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2021 05:50:55 +0000 > > $ emacs -Q > > in scratch buffer : > > (org-mode) > > after-save-hook > ;; => (rmail-after-save-hook) > > > I found this rather confusing because I cannot find any reference > in org files to this or vis-versa. This happens because turning on Org mode runs org-load-modules-maybe, which by default loads ol-gnus, which loads gnus-util, which loads rmail. And loading rmail unconditionally adds rmail-after-save-hook to after-save-hook. Does this produce any problems in practice? If so, can you describe those problems? Alternatively, you could customize org-modules to exclude ol-gnus and ol-rmail, if you don't need that in your Org related workflows.