From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#50894: Disable show-paren-mode in special modes Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 11:47:07 +0300 Message-ID: <83ilyih2lw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wnmzfgfy.fsf_-_@mail.linkov.net> <83tui3gt7z.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmsruphu.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23911"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 50894@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 30 10:48:35 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mVrk2-0005yZ-KA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 10:48:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38264 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVrk1-0000ph-6U for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 04:48:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53620) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVrjW-0000lN-HA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 04:48:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39890) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVrjW-0004yt-9M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 04:48:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mVrjW-0006mY-1U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 04:48:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 08:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50894 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 50894-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50894.163299162525886 (code B ref 50894); Thu, 30 Sep 2021 08:48:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 50894) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2021 08:47:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51436 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mVrib-0006jR-8a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 04:47:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48228) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mVriZ-0006ix-3W for 50894@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 04:47:03 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36330) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVriT-00047t-LB; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 04:46:57 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2377 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVriT-0000jv-6Y; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 04:46:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87pmsruphu.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Wed, 29 Sep 2021 22:54:20 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:215952 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: 50894@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 22:54:20 +0300 > > >> So here is a new request created from bug#50881. > > > > Sorry, but I object to turning show-paren-mode off just 5 min after we > > turned it on. Please wait for a month at least before reporting > > problems with that setting that are not clear bugs. > > If you read a book where every paren is emphasized, > what would you think about the author? It doesn't matter what I think. If I don't like that, I can turn it off. Moreover, some special modes display code fragments, where show-paren-mode is definitely useful, especially to newbies who don't yet have parenthesis peeling off burnt into their brains. Even *Help* buffers show code fragments. Please, just let this feature alone for a while. Disable it in your customizations if you cannot stand it. We can come back to it later, when we have enough experience collected from those who will see this default for the first time when Emacs 28.1 is released. They are those for whom we made this change, so let's hear their opinions before changing anything. My personal experience suggests that at least some of them will have no problems where you see them.