From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Allowing point to be outside the window? Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 17:45:25 +0200 Message-ID: <83ilwcwaga.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ilwd7zaq.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87ilwd7zaq.fsf@yahoo.com> <83bl24yaed.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfvg7l51.fsf@yahoo.com> <87ee70l27e.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21374"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 28 16:46:09 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mrMNU-0005N2-Nl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 16:46:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36278 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrMNT-0002Lo-J8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 10:46:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38314) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrMMf-00010Z-IX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 10:45:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=36546 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrMMf-0001Db-9I; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 10:45:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=1VXZJinqtRowGJHsMddxKgL7eR9gK2l0PsP0HG3T7b8=; b=KyhXCfc276gA7lNoxqfN CvPJ26WougeDaZHNFQMwQ5dx3YezDBScn71Fd1CqDkf47jAybPoCz8ece82VkQxlZlweeTnAaEexq 2cd2ZyWFquQyRyoHZyqDTvZJMHi3LlrqiK88bbXt0/fixqHhKFh/MT7iiGqT7MXSehOJD3ZxHMJNY N2+9gdmslbMDNpaYPdULxvIn6KjMtRenSvQiCMZC7SmzxEH0CaQIBz8JE0dEods9auBL1CEH1xU+A a3zbewZPlVIOlhafvFmsPWNx4qauyG1a6bzNtmiW36OwxVD8ZHjMOFaJH5GPn94BF21XYIMgQMlSk 7JX2g8ofZxyyUg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3668 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrMMe-0005Fl-3t; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 10:45:17 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87ee70l27e.fsf@gmail.com> (message from =?utf-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec on Sun, 28 Nov 2021 16:39:01 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:280423 Archived-At: > From: Kévin Le Gouguec > Cc: Po Lu , Eli Zaretskii , > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 16:39:01 +0100 > > > I detest this behaviour, and that Emacs doesn't (currently) do it is a > > large part of the reason why I use Emacs. With these other programs I > > experience a constant background stress, that the careless or accidental > > depression of a key causes BANG!!! and the text I was reading > > disappears for ever, being overwritten by the text around point. > > I don't see how (what I understand of) Po's proposition could lead to > such catastrophic text Armageddon. And in any case, Emacs's trusty undo > would surely come and save the day. Undo doesn't undo display operations, only editing operations.