From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#54502: Subject: 28.0.92; wrong info for RET Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 18:55:45 +0200 Message-ID: <83ils7fdny.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83mthjfj7v.fsf@gnu.org> <71c8e0f2-502b-aed1-b4db-eb2aec86fdc5@easy-emacs.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36153"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 54502@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 21 17:57:23 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nWLLN-0009Dl-Un for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2022 17:57:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42870 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nWLLK-0006d5-3K for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2022 12:57:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40430) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nWLL6-0006co-HC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2022 12:57:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44087) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nWLL4-0000cI-EN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2022 12:57:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nWLL4-0000f2-Dy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2022 12:57:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 16:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 54502 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 54502-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B54502.16478817702464 (code B ref 54502); Mon, 21 Mar 2022 16:57:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 54502) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Mar 2022 16:56:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37984 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nWLKE-0000df-1b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2022 12:56:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34584) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nWLK9-0000d7-WB for 54502@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2022 12:56:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=46126 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nWLK4-0006VS-Mk; Mon, 21 Mar 2022 12:56:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=IT026xQspOM3NUx9o0ST4rMkCO5xvCTxG8kGjYCD4Yw=; b=CfzsZfkLOb7fxrf+QRH1 EIRkoe7VH69SDtMekH1MXgRUCAN2L3M3cISI6IVh0Kqu/zNbSTEaQ1CuTd1Ue44RB0ZxSA0UOjtuj VdtvYyBWzalyJuF5tVBR03g6qlShxfp5kgpesaAHVxx7ih7H0ii0EmugbPmFkuMonfdClxFCFvNQh Lu9j9sq8K260C/IbDhgOAXQWDcZFb52GEJM7FK0wNlgTA7bYeIN162COZdjz5ECY2oR2Ph3TERbLh widHmFqU3wRlmYCJAu5XYQtvymkdj2Umy20z35tfMzkQQAJs57h/FWKa/PgM+7eAGsvuiTHmeM7gP iyOPlPGSQBwDKA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2932 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nWLK4-0000Cb-BX; Mon, 21 Mar 2022 12:56:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <71c8e0f2-502b-aed1-b4db-eb2aec86fdc5@easy-emacs.de> (message from Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= on Mon, 21 Mar 2022 17:34:21 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:228692 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 17:34:21 +0100 > Cc: 54502@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Andreas Röhler > > > Am 21.03.22 um 15:55 schrieb Eli Zaretskii: > >> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 15:41:57 +0100 > >> From: Andreas Röhler > >> > >> C-h k RET tells > >> > >> [...] > >> Insert a newline, and move to left margin of the new line. > >> > >> ---- > >> > >> "Left margin"  is not the case from Emacs -Q, where it indents that newline. > > The doc strings says more than that. It also says: > > > > If ‘electric-indent-mode’ is enabled, this indents the final new line > > that it adds, and reindents the preceding line. To just insert > > a newline, use M-x electric-indent-just-newline. > > > > And if you evaluate electric-indent-mode, you will see that it is > > enabled in your case. > > > So the first line does not express the default, but the customized case. > > Don't think it's good. It does describe the default, but electric-indent-mode is nowadays turned on in many modes. Thus the addition.