From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-28 b7d7c2d9e9: Add cross-reference to alternative syntaxes for Unicode Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 09:19:45 +0300 Message-ID: <83ilkcv0qm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <831qra8klo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mt9yxtvi.fsf@gmail.com> <83zgdy714g.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmepuq7r.fsf@gmail.com> <83y1tdyxbi.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24406"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 22 09:00:19 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1om8UV-0006Br-30 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2022 09:00:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1om7rV-00018X-Lg; Sat, 22 Oct 2022 02:20:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1om7rK-00016O-IT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2022 02:19:51 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1om7rJ-0005RD-E8; Sat, 22 Oct 2022 02:19:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=vztDHHPqTty9vf8jk7jqLZjbcRTRyRpLCk23qTIvv4I=; b=G5dcDLpbEFiG C8q6Ajtrd8+jmB6fOo/eTNesBc8TWNMuoSGucYlhW/HHPexYcjXswaGUye9rTW3Q8xn0hlUVMoHJi HrOUgdJ00loikrmhcL9bNfu7Td8cL9qVWYymQgSDmkf1Nkfjmblk6nCPHVlXsuYXfWelRMROlqBVa OKYc+WjO9VIMt6k+vizAiRRp//tYSm62WcMtJGzL94gRyX5EEUKE1eFLIX0weUvbq1bH+iiJONlT1 Kb5kff9077XETo9F08QGPrkwmWaheNVre+CitZGy5RFtekglX7XhI33oGbdiztN8lNRMitAIm1CZv Iqz1Zc4aMLB1/EOugN82uQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1om7rE-0000v1-V6; Sat, 22 Oct 2022 02:19:48 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Fri, 21 Oct 2022 15:42:19 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298258 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 15:42:19 -0400 > > We try to avoid the Latin abbreviations (such as "e.g.") that used to > be customary in erudite writing. Many readers don't know them. > It is better to say "such as" instead. We use "such as" and "like" and "for example" and others, but we also use "e.g.". I find nothing wrong with that; technical literature out there is full of those, and people who use and develop software should be familiar with this abbreviation. (And if they aren't, there's always Wikipedia, and our Glossary also explains it.) That is part of everyone's education, if you will. I'm sorry, but I refuse to give in to such "winds of change". Where it feels natural to say "e.g.", we will not avoid saying that just because someone might need to go look it up. Of course, we shouldn't use it too much: for example, using more than one in places too close to one another should be definitely avoided.