From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 10:29:25 +0200 Message-ID: <83ilht70re.fsf@gnu.org> References: <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@gmail.com> <83ilhz2r14.fsf@gnu.org> <83r0wl0z6g.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38047"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, 60220@debbugs.gnu.org, aaronjensen@gmail.com To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 30 09:30:21 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pBAmS-0009kR-FR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 09:30:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBAmH-0002BD-0y; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 03:30:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBAmB-00028d-HC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 03:30:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBAmB-0001uq-3Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 03:30:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pBAmA-0008PQ-Mf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 03:30:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 08:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60220 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 60220-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60220.167238898232271 (code B ref 60220); Fri, 30 Dec 2022 08:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 60220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2022 08:29:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33502 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pBAlp-0008OQ-SA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 03:29:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37670) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pBAlo-0008OA-2I for 60220@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 03:29:41 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBAlh-0001qN-25; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 03:29:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ubkNJ+2pPckBa9wvYWeXokFVAyrOi2wPuELMv6yV4L0=; b=OvTeWm1jCNrD OmCuL+CtP8byFWvLK7iZ20LVsyNauJtAp66Sspj46XhvwYZE+93nWXEbByOLJ01zd7scrdOBr1P4a MLjpdmfplg4lzarmt5mwgnZ/FVN/dGbDhSwGG6KxV7qsN4uZW4wscqP2OU5Feu6Cwxxp+1dI8rsEu 5ow7kWls1mgOyK9FDRmIILiubGKhsufIThVIM90WdrN8H/sUJISHpniHMyIIWyIklnkImaA1LlHEM NJKnJcK+kZsji+y4gSyBUWGYLqtg/F36l05bKgT/NTlVnWYaCyosE/Tw8+WuRuFxhx+MOMxZd7lv+ dwIs2z02PJna8X9a0YwTJQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBAld-0003Nz-Ml; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 03:29:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Paul Eggert on Thu, 29 Dec 2022 15:49:55 -0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:252099 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 15:49:55 -0800 > Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, 60220@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > > On 12/29/22 15:46, Aaron Jensen wrote: > > have something that eagerly > > loads packages on an idle timer (it caches what was loaded when Emacs > > is quit). > > Could it by that the dynamic linker is being invoked recursively? That > is, while something is being dynamically linked, a SIGALRM or equivalent > arrives, some idle timer code is run, and the dynamic linker is invoked > before the outer linker finishes? I imagine that might put some dynamic > linkers into a tizzy. The timers of the kind that we see in the crash backtraces don't run off SIGALRM, they run as part of the main loop.