From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is there a way to avoid clobbering minibuffer by messages? Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 11:53:13 +0300 Message-ID: <83ilei62o6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3f004ca9-1f71-2c5b-17f1-e154f209e6d3@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5619"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 30 10:53:28 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pho2C-0001GB-H4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 10:53:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pho1p-000219-SC; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 04:53:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pho1m-0001yx-Sl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 04:53:03 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pho1m-0002D2-L5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 04:53:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=omXksaj5Me3NkXIzyuamybbGnpdustu221g+rHGhsq4=; b=rN/Krhixoxsu eON8MDvhXP6Xr3XnKS6LCCF9DWa96bThU6eTERQk+UBWyWE+jtQBbjV53mRmiGbZnWruL1xP2ZGlf zkTacH/jOp8oE6n28KRzBY9EDYVDH6THCe8Rz/q+Tvx09Yab3wv6K6vq7HlcByguJ8MHV1g72TP3l X6tHpNh+jpPrKzGmkcZQjSp91a3A+g5ZYBwkfOdEW0MsX8yeQP0fLEgn1R/pKLGdoe7ZEajUt+m3M h7GrFWqUiNXBQbDFsT2Z+eqTqEL2VtIuBtU/6nPvLNfqVbOtuDMSyjPtROVM50gUNN+Cg5ECxWy+D vbhwipy6broxZwqBUmXMLg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pho1m-0005oh-5b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 04:53:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: <3f004ca9-1f71-2c5b-17f1-e154f209e6d3@gmail.com> (message from Platon Pronko on Thu, 30 Mar 2023 15:57:15 +0800) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:143147 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 15:57:15 +0800 > From: Platon Pronko > > I use ivy and tramp, and I often notice that tramp messages are output to minibuffer while I'm in the process of connecting to the host, which breaks formatting of the minibuffer. I also noticed messages messing up minibuffer contents on many other occasions. > > Is there a way to put messages somewhere else? Or maybe the other way around - keep messages in minibuffer, but use ivy in some other minibuffer? What Emacs version is that? Emacs 28 changed how echo-area messages are displayed when the minibuffer is active, so if you are using an older Emacs, maybe upgrading will fix the problem for you.