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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 66022@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#66022: 30.0.50; kmacro overwriting global keybindings
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 20:03:54 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83il87e7lx.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3eee4d40-decf-46f0-9a0d-26a2d0f2e383@gmail.com> (message from Gerd Möllmann on Mon, 18 Sep 2023 17:25:20 +0200)

> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 17:25:20 +0200
> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 66022@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> On 23-09-18 17:18 , Gerd Möllmann wrote:
> > On 23-09-18 17:09 , Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >>> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com> Cc:
> >>> monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,  66022@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 18 Sep
> >>> 2023 16:56:55 +0200
> >>>
> >>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> >>>
> >>>> Any idea why a call to 'documentation' loads loaddefs?  Did you
> >>>> indeed "hack the Emacs you were running"?
> >>>
> >>> No idea, and I didn't hack it at all.  This was a minute after I
> >>> started a newly-build Emacs, wondered why a C-c C-k binding didn't
> >>> work.  I then pressed C-c alone to see what it is bound to, with
> >>> which-key.
> >>
> >> So I think this now becomes the main question.  If this is not a
> >> bug, i.e. if loaddefs can legitimately be loaded mid-session, we
> >> cannot autoload key bindings, at least not naïvely as we do now.
> > 
> > Another observation: when I start emacs from its source directory
> > master/src, and not as bundle, i.e. by® clicking on Emacs.app in the
> > dock, this doesn't happen.
> > 
> > One difference in the two scenarios is that Emacs.app contains gzip'd el
> > files.
> 
> ~/emacs/master/ > ls -l 
> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/loaddefs.el*
> -rw-r--r--  1 gerd  admin   377687 Sep 17 16:36 
> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/loaddefs.el.gz
> -rw-r--r--  1 gerd  admin  1467107 Sep 17 16:38 
> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resource

Is your Emacs compiled with zlib?

> Note the timestamps.  Is that good or bad?

Good.  The .gz ffile should have the time stamp of the corresponding
.el file.






  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-09-18 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-16  6:38 bug#66022: 30.0.50; kmacro overwriting global keybindings Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-16  7:01 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-09-16  7:36   ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-16 18:44     ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-16 20:06       ` Andreas Schwab
2023-09-16 20:18         ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-16 20:37           ` Andreas Schwab
2023-09-16 20:55             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17  6:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-17  6:31   ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17  6:40     ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17  6:47       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-17  6:52         ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17  8:53           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-17  8:58             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17  9:18               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-17  9:50                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17 10:02                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17 10:45                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-17 11:07                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17 11:23                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-17 11:26                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17 17:13                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-17 18:10                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17 19:10                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18 14:36                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-18 14:42                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-18 14:52                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-18 14:56                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-18 15:09                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-18 15:18                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-18 15:25                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-18 16:25                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18 16:33                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-18 17:00                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18 17:54                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-18 18:24                                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18 18:27                                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-20  9:57                                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-20 14:11                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-20 14:22                                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-20 15:04                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-20 15:09                                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-20 16:56                                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-20 18:24                                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-20 18:50                                                               ` Alan Third
2023-09-20 19:04                                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-21  5:13                                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-20 19:05                                                             ` Alan Third
2023-09-18 17:03                                           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-09-18 17:42                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-18 16:23                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18 17:19                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-04  5:01 ` Gerd Möllmann

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