From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 66022@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#66022: 30.0.50; kmacro overwriting global keybindings
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 20:03:54 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83il87e7lx.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3eee4d40-decf-46f0-9a0d-26a2d0f2e383@gmail.com> (message from Gerd Möllmann on Mon, 18 Sep 2023 17:25:20 +0200)
> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 17:25:20 +0200
> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 66022@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> On 23-09-18 17:18 , Gerd Möllmann wrote:
> > On 23-09-18 17:09 , Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >>> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com> Cc:
> >>> monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 66022@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 18 Sep
> >>> 2023 16:56:55 +0200
> >>>
> >>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> >>>
> >>>> Any idea why a call to 'documentation' loads loaddefs? Did you
> >>>> indeed "hack the Emacs you were running"?
> >>>
> >>> No idea, and I didn't hack it at all. This was a minute after I
> >>> started a newly-build Emacs, wondered why a C-c C-k binding didn't
> >>> work. I then pressed C-c alone to see what it is bound to, with
> >>> which-key.
> >>
> >> So I think this now becomes the main question. If this is not a
> >> bug, i.e. if loaddefs can legitimately be loaded mid-session, we
> >> cannot autoload key bindings, at least not naïvely as we do now.
> >
> > Another observation: when I start emacs from its source directory
> > master/src, and not as bundle, i.e. by® clicking on Emacs.app in the
> > dock, this doesn't happen.
> >
> > One difference in the two scenarios is that Emacs.app contains gzip'd el
> > files.
>
> ~/emacs/master/ > ls -l
> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/loaddefs.el*
> -rw-r--r-- 1 gerd admin 377687 Sep 17 16:36
> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/loaddefs.el.gz
> -rw-r--r-- 1 gerd admin 1467107 Sep 17 16:38
> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resource
Is your Emacs compiled with zlib?
> Note the timestamps. Is that good or bad?
Good. The .gz ffile should have the time stamp of the corresponding
.el file.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-18 17:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-16 6:38 bug#66022: 30.0.50; kmacro overwriting global keybindings Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-16 7:01 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-09-16 7:36 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-16 18:44 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-16 20:06 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-09-16 20:18 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-16 20:37 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-09-16 20:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17 6:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-17 6:31 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17 6:40 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17 6:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-17 6:52 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17 8:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-17 8:58 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17 9:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-17 9:50 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17 10:02 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17 10:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-17 11:07 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17 11:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-17 11:26 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17 17:13 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-17 18:10 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-17 19:10 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18 14:36 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-18 14:42 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-18 14:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-18 14:56 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-18 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-18 15:18 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-18 15:25 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-18 16:25 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18 16:33 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-18 17:00 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18 17:54 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-18 18:24 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18 18:27 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-20 9:57 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-20 14:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-20 14:22 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-20 15:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-20 15:09 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-20 16:56 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-20 18:24 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-20 18:50 ` Alan Third
2023-09-20 19:04 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-21 5:13 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-20 19:05 ` Alan Third
2023-09-18 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-09-18 17:42 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-18 16:23 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18 17:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-04 5:01 ` Gerd Möllmann
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