From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Fiddling with the menus Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:14:44 +0300 Message-ID: <83hbwgluqz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83prb4lwzm.fsf@gnu.org> <4a7f1000.1438560a.751b.ffffb59b@mx.google.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1249841704 12592 80.91.229.12 (9 Aug 2009 18:15:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:15:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: xah@xahlee.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Riley Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 09 20:14:56 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MaCuz-0007c5-OK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:14:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45345 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MaCuz-0007ZD-3r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:14:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MaCut-0007Yr-7u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:14:47 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MaCus-0007Ya-R0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:14:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37786 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MaCus-0007YX-AD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:14:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout3.012.net.il ([84.95.2.7]:31543) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MaCur-0007P3-RJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:14:46 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout3.012.net.il by i_mtaout3.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KO400F00FXT0T00@i_mtaout3.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:14:45 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.224.142]) by i_mtaout3.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KO4008VWG0KBR80@i_mtaout3.012.net.il>; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:14:45 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <4a7f1000.1438560a.751b.ffffb59b@mx.google.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:113868 Archived-At: > From: Richard Riley > Cc: Stefan Monnier , xah@xahlee.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:05:51 +0200 > > > These settings are already in a second-level menu, so how can they > > possibly bother anyone? Just because Xah doesn't see any use for > > them, it doesn't mean others won't. When I work on a laptop, I have > > Then turn them on. Most people have a desktop clock already > configured. Seems obvious enough. > > > the Battery display on all the time, because Emacs lets me customize > > that display in ways most OSes never will. As for Time, why should I > > Then turn it on for laptops. More specifically yours. Most of us have a > system battery monitor. > > > move my eyes to the system's display, somewhere on the fringes of the > > screen, just to know what time it is? > > And why should everyone else have their emacs modeline infested with > unnecessary stuff when they have the GUI properly configured. Hey, we are not talking about turning them on! We are talking about whether they are important enough to be in the menu. If someone doesn't want their modeline infested, they are free not to turn them on. Puff! problem's gone.