From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Git mirrors Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:42:49 +0200 Message-ID: <83hb3e46fq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8762k095n4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871uuksdxi.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lissh32y.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87zkh8e286.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87d3e4gttq.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ehyjrhxh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87botmreqf.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83vcruwqs8.fsf@gnu.org> <871uuifgvr.fsf@wanadoo.es> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318430661 4132 80.91.229.12 (12 Oct 2011 14:44:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:44:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 12 16:44:16 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RE02W-00065m-Sl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:44:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54703 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RE02W-0005Cr-CK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:44:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38926) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RE02P-0005C1-Hh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:44:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RE02O-00022p-8t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:44:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:62607) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RE02O-00022K-2E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:44:04 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LSY00B00JAEGE00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:42:49 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.51.78]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LSY00AHRJJBZ060@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:42:49 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <871uuifgvr.fsf@wanadoo.es> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145013 Archived-At: > From: =C3=93scar Fuentes > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:01:44 +0200 >=20 > Eli Zaretskii writes: >=20 > >> =C3=93scar was talking about both, and specifically asked why su= ch a > >> policy exists in the first place. > > > > No, =C3=93scar was talking about the past. There's nothing in th= e present > > condition that can justify his views and gripes. >=20 > Wrong. I started this after reading that providing a git mirror is = not > good for GNU. No one said if was "not good". Glenn said it "would not benefit" the GNU project. My translation is: "will not make the GNU project bette= r than it was before". > > The policy was explained many times. Richard just explained it a= gain. >=20 > Where? Is this what you are talking about? : Yes, that's the latest installment. > Richard Stallman writes: >=20 > > I was restraining myself from making this question since long= time ago: > > is GNU a competing project against other *Free* projects? > > > > Competition is common in the free software world. > > When a GNU package competes with a non-GNU package, > > but we should promote other GNU projects first. >=20 > Even if I could parse that, it doesn't seem an explanation, but the > statement of a policy. Feel free to ask for details. It's clear enough for me, but YMMV.