From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: visual line mode Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 07:44:31 +0200 Message-ID: <83hapx620w.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1350025008261-266925.post@n5.nabble.com> <838vbc85dy.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9vsjcsl.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <1350038115945-266940.post@n5.nabble.com> <7D26BCC2-3CEA-4109-878F-FEB13D2EED2B@Web.DE> <1350038885303-266943.post@n5.nabble.com> <395879E8-FD2F-4487-850D-0B2CECE37DF5@Web.DE> <83wqyv7rao.fsf@gnu.org> <7B153E83-F6E8-48ED-A6DF-905FB274C351@Web.DE> <83k3uv7ixg.fsf@gnu.org> <83bog67r96.fsf@gnu.org> <3F6B0303-632C-45F1-BC70-D230655BC92F@Web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1350193508 15342 80.91.229.3 (14 Oct 2012 05:45:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 05:45:08 +0000 (UTC) To: Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 14 07:45:15 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TNH0d-0003sO-OC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 07:45:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44136 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TNH0W-0003G3-Th for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:45:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51953) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TNH0Q-0003Eq-M3 for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:44:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TNH0P-0000am-KH for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:44:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:64549) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TNH0P-0000ZM-Bp for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:44:53 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MBV00L00BTSDG00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 07:44:28 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MBV00KAGBY1UFF0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 07:44:25 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <3F6B0303-632C-45F1-BC70-D230655BC92F@Web.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:87257 Archived-At: > From: Peter Dyballa > Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 23:54:54 +0200 > Cc: Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org >=20 > Create a file containing that line with TABS between "6)" and "von"= : >=20 > =09Tausendsch=F6nchen (Sedmikrasky) (1966)=09=09=09=09von Vera Chyt= ilov=E1 >=20 > Launch GNU Emacs with -Q and visit that file read-only. Activate vi= sual line mode. Resize the frame's width to 15 columns ("C-a C-u 14 C= -f" should put the cursor into the last, right-most column). Position= the cursor at the SPACE in the name "Vera Chytilov=E1" and use the c= ursor movement keys to make the text cursor move upwards. In the visi= ble line with TABs it will not go upwards but leftwards, in a left-to= -right script one TAB backwards, as it will do on the visible line ab= ove, where UP makes it jump to column 0, i.e., left of "(1966)". On n= ext UP it's back in the column where the cursor started. >=20 > When I position the text cursor with the mouse on the second "n" in= "Tausendsch=F6nchen" and then press CURSOR DOWN it jumps over all th= e TABs after "(1966)" and lands on the "a" in "Very Chytilov=E1" inst= ead of the SPACE=85 These are bugs. > > I have no problem with this when I try it now. Does it happen fo= r you > > in "emacs -Q", if you just turn on visual-line-mode? >=20 > I certainly have to click a lot more. What I encountered is that I = clicked into column X on some line and repeatedly the text from the l= ast column until where I clicked was high-lighted. Or when I clicked = into column Y on some other line the text cursor was put into column = (X - N). I don't see this problem. > =09% \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.pdf,.png,.jpeg}=09 % in pdfTeX all= owed graphics formats >=20 > is: >=20 > a) position the cursor in column 0 on the "%" > b) perform RIGHT C-u C-x =3D RIGHT C-u C-x =3D RIGHT C-u C-x =3D RI= GHT C-u C-x =3D (this is exactly four times right on exactly one SPAC= E character) >=20 > The *Messages* buffer contains: >=20 > =09Char: % (37, #o45, #x25) point=3D2577 of 37255 (7%) column=3D0 > =09 > =09Char: SPC (32, #o40, #x20) point=3D2578 of 37255 (7%) column= =3D1 > =09 > =09Char: SPC (32, #o40, #x20) point=3D2579 of 37255 (7%) column= =3D2 > =09 > =09Char: SPC (32, #o40, #x20) point=3D2580 of 37255 (7%) column= =3D3 > =09 > =09Char: SPC (32, #o40, #x20) point=3D2581 of 37255 (7%) column= =3D4 I don't see this, either. I get the correct characters shown in the echo area and in *Messages*. > I prefer to have a GNU Emacs that is as true and reliable as Honest= John, the sheriff with the hat of the Mounted Police, played by W.C.= Fields, in the film =93Six Of A Kind=94, who explains at a billiard = pool why he carries the honourable name "Honest". It will never be that.