From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14841: Frames created invisible have their visibility parameter set to t Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:37:49 +0300 Message-ID: <83hafdxldu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83a9ltun54.fsf@gnu.org> <837ggxukjt.fsf@gnu.org> <83hafx3wzz.fsf@gnu.org> <83vc45xuht.fsf@gnu.org> <83li4uv3en.fsf@gnu.org> <83hafhvnjd.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqodzll1.fsf@gnu.org> <51F3C056.2040706@gmx.at> <838v0syx2y.fsf@gnu.org> <51F3CB7C.1030005@gmx.at> <8361vwyq7f.fsf@gnu.org> <51F4D8E4.3010907@gmx.at> <8338qyzq55.fsf@gnu.org> <51F61FCC.9090008@gmx.at> <83wqo9xu9g.fsf@gnu.org> <51F69F47.7060201@gmx.at> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1375123100 8303 80.91.229.3 (29 Jul 2013 18:38:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:38:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 14841@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 29 20:38:18 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V3sKm-0002yf-Ig for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:38:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42065 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V3sKm-00068x-4w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:38:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47447) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V3sKd-000687-Hv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:38:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V3sKY-0005hz-9G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:38:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:34049) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V3sKY-0005hv-6T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:38:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V3sKX-0000rb-Qh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:38:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14841 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14841-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14841.13751230723290 (code B ref 14841); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:38:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14841) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jul 2013 18:37:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56598 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V3sKN-0000qz-RX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:37:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:53357) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V3sKL-0000qX-9J for 14841@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:37:50 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MQP00300NO5CI00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 14841@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:37:41 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MQP002L0NQTN2E0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:37:41 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <51F69F47.7060201@gmx.at> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:76773 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:58:47 +0200 > From: martin rudalics > CC: 14841@debbugs.gnu.org, lekktu@gmail.com > > >> -mm is only an approximation of maximizing since it doesn't hide the > >> window borders. > > > > It should do exactly what (fullscreen . maximized) frame parameter > > does, so I guess you are already used to the above issue? > > For some reason, using -mm gives me a frame _with_ outer borders while > adding (fullscreen . maximized) to `initial-frame-alist' gets me a frame > _without_ outer borders. What do you get? I get the same effect with both, which is a frame _with_ outer borders. But this is XP, and I think I saw a frame without borders on Windows 7. Will check. > > Assuming the above is possible (having the window both hidden _and_ > > maximized), patches are welcome. > > On the Web you can find a quite remarkable number of proposals how to > get an initially maximized frame (not only on Windows, IIUC). Maximized _and_ hidden? Any pointers?