From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Can't build latest emacs on MSW + CRLF display issue Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 22:33:19 +0300 Message-ID: <83haedh8g0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <80haed61py.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1377459204 12193 80.91.229.3 (25 Aug 2013 19:33:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 19:33:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: karl@freefriends.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Vincent =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bela=EFche?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 25 21:33:25 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VDg3v-0000WX-NO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 21:33:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47427 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VDg3v-0000vD-BI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:33:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49664) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VDg3o-0000uE-Pp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:33:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VDg3j-00086U-Is for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:33:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:64512) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VDg3j-00086M-BF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:33:11 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MS300400QAZXM00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 22:33:10 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MS3004E3QB9GEB0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 22:33:09 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <80haed61py.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163018 Archived-At: > From: Vincent Bela=EFche =20 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Karl Berry =20 > Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 20:54:01 +0200 >=20 > BTW there are also autoconf & automake under the sourceforge mingw > project, but with lesser version number. Your files are for MSYS no= t > MINGW, right ? Right. > And they need the MSYS perl, not the e.g. activestate perl. >=20 > Maybe INSTALL.MSYS should be a bit more talkative about that. It is as talkative as needed, but no more talkative. It tells you to get everything from MSYS Base, and a additional packages, including Perl. If you do that, you are all set. > > The first one, cr.info, doesn't have ^M characters at all, as > > evidenced by the "/" mnemonics at the left corner of the mode lin= e. > >=20 >=20 > It is a `\' not a `/' mnemonic on the PNG picture, which shows that > cr.info Right, sorry, I was looking at the wrong mode line ;-) > because as you are stating later on, cr.info is deemed to be a text= file > by EMACS. It is deemed a text file with DOS CRLF EOL format, yes. > No problem with the info reader, that was happening with visiting t= he > info files. Viewing them like info is perfect. Then what you see is expected: a typical Info file has binary null bytes in it, so visiting it will show the ^M, because Emacs detects those null bytes and visits the file without any conversions, including no EOL conversion. Viewing the file in Info suppresses the detection of null bytes, so you don't see the ^M. I guess cr.info doesn't have those null bytes (it depends on its Texinfo source).