From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15297: 24.3.50; Compression of installed .el files should be configurable Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 11:50:36 +0300 Message-ID: <83hadxkobn.fsf@gnu.org> References: <21034.52823.580662.797952@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <83mwnpkrfd.fsf@gnu.org> <21034.58735.377243.154796@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1378543875 19972 80.91.229.3 (7 Sep 2013 08:51:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 08:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15297@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ulrich =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCller?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 07 10:51:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEEe-0002wC-Og for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 10:51:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41192 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEEe-0002DD-Ek for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 04:51:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58630) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEEW-00027N-0u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 04:51:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEEQ-0005VL-6R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 04:51:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37776) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEEQ-0005VE-1q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 04:51:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEEP-0003K3-MW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 04:51:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 08:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15297 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 15297-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15297.137854385412757 (code B ref 15297); Sat, 07 Sep 2013 08:51:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15297) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2013 08:50:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46069 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEEH-0003Jg-6g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 04:50:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:44290) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEED-0003JO-Lu for 15297@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 04:50:50 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MSQ00000Z2CYL00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15297@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 11:50:43 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MSQ000NWZ8IRM90@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 11:50:43 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <21034.58735.377243.154796@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:78098 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 10:35:59 +0200 > Cc: 15297@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Ulrich Müller > > I don't understand what would be the advantage of delaying the > decision. I see at least 2: 1) The default is always the same, no matter how the package was configured. IOW, no need to remember or even care about the options passed to the configure script, in order to know what will happen by default with compression. 2) Not introducing yet another obscure option to configure, which already has too many of them. > What additional information does the user have at install > time that he didn't have at configure time, and that would therefore > assist him with the decision? Perhaps you never produced more than one installation from the same source tree. I do it all the time: sometimes I install on the same machine, sometimes for copying the installation to another. The end-user system frequently needs different options, because the needs of the end users are different. > configure has the additional advantage > that things are remembered in the config.status file and in Emacs' > system-configuration-options variable, so you can recreate an > identical configuration from that. What do you mean by "recreate an identical configuration"? > Also, "configure --help" lists what options are available. Yes, all 75 of them. > But how would the user discover that there is a GZIP_PROG variable? > By reading the Makefile? GZIP_PROG is at around line 260, not easy > to find. Those few that care will find it out once, and then remember it, like they remember this new option to configure.