From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Messing with the VC history Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:42:33 +0200 Message-ID: <83h9xxbwxy.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k32vsm8u.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83fvdjdv8t.fsf@gnu.org> <871tp3rv07.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87lhnavhz9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416242600 30710 80.91.229.3 (17 Nov 2014 16:43:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 17 17:43:13 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XqPOR-0003C5-2z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 17:43:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48796 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqPOQ-0006HW-Mb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:43:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58049) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqPO4-00067X-Sl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:42:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqPNz-00059v-GI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:42:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout26.012.net.il ([80.179.55.182]:54574) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqPNz-000595-9O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:42:43 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout26.012.net.il by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NF600K00ZGR5900@mtaout26.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:41:09 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NF600AL8ZOLXY90@mtaout26.012.net.il>; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:41:09 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87lhnavhz9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.182 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:177447 Archived-At: > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 08:33:14 +0900 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >=20 > You can't win this one, =C3=93scar. Many Emacs developers, includi= ng > several frequent committers, are uninterested in learning enough ab= out > VCS to deal with these issues. Some dislike rebasing in principle = or > because doing it properly (as they understand it) involves running > tests on all rebased commits. I didn't want to start a "to rebase or not to rebase" argument. Take= n at face value, neither was =C3=93scar's original gripe. So I pointed= out that a situation similar to what he complained about happens from tim= e to time in Emacs, and is IMO no catastrophe. As for the rebase issue, the pros and cons are well known, and interested parties can find good writeups on the Internet with sound arguments either way. We won't come up with anything new about that. People take sides according to their personal preferences and work habits, and that is okay as long as Emacs, unlike some other projects= , allows each one to do what they like in this department. I see no reason to argue about personal preferences, let alone accuse the opponents of being unwilling to learn.