From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Noisy byte compilation on master Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 18:35:01 +0200 Message-ID: <83h9v4gtl6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83egq9ipkn.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1422894929 1159 80.91.229.3 (2 Feb 2015 16:35:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:35:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 02 17:35:29 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YIJyA-0003po-LY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 17:35:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55393 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIJyA-0002Sn-04 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 11:35:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37652) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIJy3-0002SS-OL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 11:35:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIJy0-0004AJ-FN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 11:35:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:33884) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIJy0-00049a-8Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 11:35:16 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NJ500A00KJ73R00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 18:35:14 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NJ5009ESKQQHX80@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 18:35:14 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182268 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 11:31:39 -0500 > > Not sure what to do about these: CEDET needs to work with older > Emascsen, so we can't change the code to use the cl-defmethod thingies yet. > But in the Emacs master code, `defmethod' is a compatibility layer which > introduces notable inefficiencies, so we do want to mark those as obsolete. > > Maybe we should keep those as "not quite obsolete yet" and only add the > obsolescence warnings when we get to Emacs-26? Or else, (define and) > add extra annotations in those CEDET files to silence those warnings? I don't have anything intelligent to say about this, except that the amount of these messages is unbearably large. Please find some way of shutting them up. > > Warning: Using brain-dead macro `mm-with-unibyte-current-buffer'! > > utf7.el: `mm-with-unibyte-current-buffer' is an obsolete macro (as of 25.1). > > This one is also problematic: I've been trying to reduce the use of this > macro for several years now, but I don't know the Gnus code enough to do > much further progress. Yet, this macro is sufficiently ill-defined that > I think most of its uses probably suffer from latent bugs. So spewing > warnings during compilation sounds like the right thing to do (tho > I see they're duplicated: one from the macro itself and one from the > obsolescence warning, so we can drop the "Warning:" message). Again, the problem is the sheer number of those.