From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: xref backends for elisp-related modes Was: Re: Bad moves with xref-find-definitions Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:01:58 +0300 Message-ID: <83h9s0utqh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h9s6c27z.fsf@gmail.com> <87zj5wnlyt.fsf@gmail.com> <553C285B.4070400@yandex.ru> <838udfx7rt.fsf@gnu.org> <87383kcy0u.fsf@gmail.com> <87pp6obh14.fsf@gmail.com> <83oam8uvsk.fsf@gnu.org> <87618gb6kj.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1430236955 29144 80.91.229.3 (28 Apr 2015 16:02:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 16:02:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, joaotavora@gmail.com, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Vitalie Spinu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 28 18:02:20 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn7xf-0006mE-FY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 18:02:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34837 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn7xe-00068J-8e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 12:02:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37818) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn7xa-00065X-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 12:02:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn7xW-0002FS-BQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 12:02:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:49239) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yn7xV-0002FH-UI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 12:02:06 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NNI00300XANVC00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:02:04 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NNI00362XVFV330@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:02:04 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87618gb6kj.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185972 Archived-At: > From: Vitalie Spinu > Cc: joaotavora@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, dgutov@yandex.ru > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:45:00 +0200 > > > ??? Please see the list of non-Lisp packages I showed in a previous > > message: each one of them features a more or less complex programming > > language that very much can benefit from xref-style functionality. > > This is obviously true. My point was different. > > If you need to choose a default backend in info mode, xref-eslips is > more useful than xref-etags which is the current default. Only if most of your manuals are for Lisp-related packages. If not, it will be as useless as xref-etags. IOW, "more useful" does not necessarily mean "useful enough". We need to be smarter than either of these two as a single default back-end.