From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: UI inconveniences with M-. Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 19:53:00 +0300 Message-ID: <83h9ryub9v.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83zja6b3tc.fsf@gnu.org> <54A24079.4020902@yandex.ru> <54A2FF47.6010207@yandex.ru> <54A86135.7080004@yandex.ru> <54A90002.7080009@gmx.at> <54A9C3FB.7000602@yandex.ru> <54AA3881.3080304@gmx.at> <54ABBB47.7010603@yandex.ru> <837fszx7iy.fsf@gnu.org> <83r3r5wqwv.fsf@gnu.org> <83k2wxwexb.fsf@gnu.org> <83fv7kwbow.fsf@gnu.org> <837fsvuefq.fsf@gnu.org> <5540FF87.3000903@yandex.ru> <83k2wuucwk.fsf@gnu.org> <554105FF.3090900@yandex.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1430326425 641 80.91.229.3 (29 Apr 2015 16:53:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 16:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 29 18:53:29 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YnVEm-0002jj-IU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 18:53:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40122 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YnVEm-0005tw-1D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 12:53:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33300) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YnVEi-0005tr-6J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 12:53:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YnVEe-0005k4-63 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 12:53:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:32874) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YnVEd-0005jp-Tu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 12:53:20 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NNK00F00UMFDS00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 19:53:03 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NNK00EQPUWFXHA0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 19:53:03 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <554105FF.3090900@yandex.ru> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:186029 Archived-At: > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 19:25:35 +0300 > > On 04/29/2015 07:17 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> How would a UI deal with that? > > > > I don't know yet. For now, I'm having hard time getting you-all to > > agree that this needs to be fixed, and fixed soon. Are we there yet? > > Not really. You seem to insist on fixing this in UI. I never said that. What I did say is that the problems exposed by the UI need to be fixed, no matter where. > This isn't far, conceptually, from teaching pig how to fly, from > where I'm standing. Thank you for your kind words.