all messages for Emacs-related lists mirrored at yhetil.org
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: 19576@debbugs.gnu.org, andlind@gmail.com
Subject: bug#19576: write-file writes the wrong buffer
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:32:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83h9kh6pgj.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <564ED837.6090007@gmx.at>

> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:22:15 +0100
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
> CC: andlind@gmail.com, 19576@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
>  >> People who put their functions on ‘window-size-change-functions’ and
>  >> ‘window-configuration-change-hook’ usually don't care about the precise
>  >> reason why these function get called.  They simply want to cover all
>  >> cases where a new window appears or a specific window changes size.  Do
>  >> we really expect them to add a ‘save-window-excursion’ in one case and
>  >> avoid it in the other because it would mean unnecessary extra work?
>  >
>  > Yes, we do.  Hooks called by the display engine should be coded very
>  > carefully, because they are a large part of that proverbial rope that
>  > Emacs gives us to hang ourselves.  If they don't write those hooks
>  > with great care, they get what they deserve.
> 
> People do care.  But how would they know that in one case we save all
> sorts of things while we don't in the other.

They don't need to.  We won't tell them that we do that even in a
single case.

> At least the OP got what he deserved: Waiting one year for being told
> that the bug he reported is his own fault.

Yes, our bug-handling routine can and should be improved.  I'm sorry
he had to wait for so long.  To be fair, the original report already
put the blame squarely on installing a "broken window size change
function", so I don't think what I wrote here 10 months later is a
revelation of any kind.





  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-20  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-12 23:37 bug#19576: 24.4; Broken function in `window-size-change-functions' cause `write-file' to write the wrong buffer Anders Lindgren
2015-11-16 19:18 ` bug#19576: write-file writes " Anders Lindgren
2015-11-16 19:46   ` martin rudalics
2015-11-16 20:05     ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-17  0:55       ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-17 20:02         ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-17 21:52           ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-18  0:27             ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-18  1:37               ` Drew Adams
2015-11-18  7:54               ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-18 17:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-18 23:23             ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-19 16:03               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20  8:22                 ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20 10:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20 10:48                     ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20 11:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20 11:25                         ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20 11:40                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20 14:21                             ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20 14:54                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-21 11:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-21 15:56                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-21 16:01                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-21 16:49                       ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-21 17:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-21 18:27                         ` martin rudalics
2015-11-21 18:33                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-21 18:44                             ` martin rudalics
2015-11-21 19:08                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-21 20:33                                 ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-22 10:44                                 ` martin rudalics
2015-11-22 15:36                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-21 16:02                     ` bug#21333: " Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-22 11:08                   ` martin rudalics
2015-11-22 15:39                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-22 17:46                       ` martin rudalics
2015-11-23 18:21                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-23 18:28                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-24  8:27                           ` martin rudalics
2015-11-24 16:19                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 10:26                   ` martin rudalics
2015-11-28 11:27                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-30 13:30                       ` martin rudalics
2015-11-30 16:28                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-30 17:27                           ` martin rudalics
2015-11-19  8:13             ` martin rudalics
2015-11-19 15:45               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20  8:22                 ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20  8:34                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20 10:25                     ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20 11:15                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20 11:25                         ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20 11:39                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20 14:21                             ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20 11:32                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-20 11:41                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-17 21:15         ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-18 17:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-18 19:23             ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-18 20:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-19  2:06                 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-19  6:54                 ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-19 15:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-22 18:44                     ` Johan Bockgård
2015-11-22 18:55                       ` Johan Bockgård
2015-11-22 19:02                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-17  8:34       ` martin rudalics
2015-11-17 19:08         ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-18 17:24         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-19  8:12           ` martin rudalics
2015-11-19 15:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20  8:22               ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20  8:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
     [not found] ` <mailman.9.1447720293.31583.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-11-17 22:10   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-18  7:09     ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20 20:17 ` bug#19576: Fixed: " Anders Lindgren

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=83h9kh6pgj.fsf@gnu.org \
    --to=eliz@gnu.org \
    --cc=19576@debbugs.gnu.org \
    --cc=andlind@gmail.com \
    --cc=rudalics@gmx.at \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.