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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: a.s@realize.ch, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Asynchronous DNS
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 18:32:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83h9hbz20t.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fuwv6ai4.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun,  14 Feb 2016 18:01:39 +1100)

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Cc: a.s@realize.ch,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 18:01:39 +1100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Yes.  But AFAIU the suggestion to "add blockers" simply makes these
> > functions wait until the process is in that state.  So code that did
> > this outside of those functions will "just work" because these
> > blockers will become no-ops.
> 
> The issue is losing asynchronicity.  A function that previously called
> 
> (progn
>   (make-network-stream ... :nowait t)
>   (set-process-coding-system ...))
> 
> would not block.  With the proposed blockers (unless we add fine-grained
> code to all the process function to only block if we haven't even done
> DNS yet), this code will block.  And that's a regression.

If set-process-coding-system worked in the above snippet, it means it
doesn't need to block waiting for a fully capable process object.  If
it didn't work (as in signaled an error), then there's no regression.

> But, I mean, we could examine all these process functions and only have
> them block where we need them to, and things would work fine.

If the above snippet works now, you have already examined that
function, and you know what the conclusions are.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-14 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 190+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-23 13:50 Asynchronous DNS Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-23 14:56 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-01-24 21:17   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-25  8:58     ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-01-25 15:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-25 17:15         ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-01-25 17:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-23 21:42 ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-24 13:53   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-24 14:01     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-24 14:14       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-24 19:58         ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-24  4:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-24 13:56   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-24 17:16     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-25  2:06       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26 19:48 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-26 22:05 ` Florian Weimer
2016-01-30  0:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-30  2:39   ` Alex Dunn
2016-01-30  2:58     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-30  4:11       ` Alex Dunn
2016-01-30  4:34         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-01  3:55           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-30  7:23   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-30  7:46     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-30  8:46       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-30 22:46         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-31  6:12       ` Ken Raeburn
2016-02-01  2:46         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-31 14:03   ` Andy Moreton
2016-02-01  2:08     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-01  2:36       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-01 18:51         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-02  1:15           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02  3:38             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-02  3:48               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02 13:25                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-02 16:24                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-02 17:11                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-02 16:12                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-03  0:42                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-03 15:49                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-04  2:22                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-04  8:18                         ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-04  8:55                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-04 10:13                             ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-05  2:08                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-05  7:19                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05  7:32                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-13 23:47                                     ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-14  2:22                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-14 11:19                                         ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-14 16:40                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-16 21:37                                             ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-20  1:28                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-20 17:55                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-20 20:18                                                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-20 20:33                                                     ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-21 10:29                                                       ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-26 23:54                                                         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-02-27  3:57                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-27  9:22                                                             ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-28  4:43                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-28  9:44                                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-29  2:59                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-29  3:30                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-29  8:41                                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-20 19:31                                                 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-20 19:57                                                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-21  2:36                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-21  3:03                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-21 18:55                                                         ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-21 20:23                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22  2:15                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-22  3:39                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22  4:03                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-22  5:45                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-22  2:07                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24  6:26                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24  6:29                                                               ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-24  6:52                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24  8:27                                                               ` John Wiegley
2016-02-21 19:35                                                         ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-22  2:01                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-20 10:57                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-16  2:09                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-05  9:37                                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-04 16:30                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05  2:31                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-05  7:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-03  2:49                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02  6:41             ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-02  7:06               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02  7:49                 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-02 21:27                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-03  0:22                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-03 10:22                     ` Yuri Khan
2016-02-04  0:18                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-01 11:58       ` Andy Moreton
2016-02-01 19:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-01 22:18           ` Andy Moreton
2016-02-02  1:54         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02  2:05           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-02-02  2:18             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02  3:42           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-03  0:50             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-03  2:43               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-03 15:50               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-04  2:25                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-04 16:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05  2:32                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-05  7:21                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05  7:33                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-06  7:49                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-06  8:19                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07  0:34                               ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-07  1:38                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-07 11:41                                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-07 19:16                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07 20:24                                       ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08  1:55                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08  3:40                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08  7:40                                       ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08  7:52                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08  8:10                                           ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-09  0:37                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-09  9:02                                               ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-09 13:46                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-09 17:00                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09 20:43                                                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-09 20:48                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09 23:22                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-10 10:39                                                       ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-12  2:15                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-12 10:12                                                           ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-13  4:04                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-13 10:16                                                               ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-14  2:20                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-14  5:56                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-14  7:01                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-14 13:56                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-15  0:19                                                                         ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15  4:22                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-14 16:32                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-02-15  0:14                                                                         ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15  3:41                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-15  4:30                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-15  0:02                                                                       ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15  4:39                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-15  6:14                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-15  6:25                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-15 10:55                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-15 12:01                                                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-15 13:50                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-16  2:26                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-15 10:50                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-15 11:06                                                                             ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15 13:49                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-15 15:04                                                                                 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15 16:40                                                                                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-16  2:13                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-16  6:48                                                                                       ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15 18:13                                                                           ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-12 10:35                                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-12 11:37                                                             ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08 18:11                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09  0:47                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-09 16:56                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 10:43                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-08 11:55                                         ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08 12:55                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-08 14:25                                             ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08 14:31                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-09  0:40                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-09  9:15                                                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-09  9:35                                                     ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-07 15:55                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07 17:45                                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08  2:03                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08 15:56                                     ` John Wiegley
2016-02-08 20:30                                       ` Rasmus
2016-02-09  0:34                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08 18:22                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07  1:35                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-07 16:07                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08  2:05                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08 18:20                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07 17:27                             ` John Wiegley
2016-02-08  1:26                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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