From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23144: shrinking windows with gtk 3.20 Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 12:46:13 +0300 Message-ID: <83h9flu0ey.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56FA9CBD.1020404@gmx.at> <56FE27E2.2030307@gmx.at> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1459504049 1210 80.91.229.3 (1 Apr 2016 09:47:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 09:47:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jwiegley@gmail.com, matthias.clasen@gmail.com, 23144@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 01 11:47:20 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1alvfg-0003vQ-Pb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 11:47:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43028 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alvfg-0003ei-Ck for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 05:47:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42379) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alvfY-0003XP-EQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 05:47:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alvfS-0006H4-FP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 05:47:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:49629) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alvfS-0006Gz-4T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 05:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alvfR-0008JS-Vd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 05:47:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 09:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23144 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23144-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23144.145950399831921 (code B ref 23144); Fri, 01 Apr 2016 09:47:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23144) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Apr 2016 09:46:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46756 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alvf4-0008In-EI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 05:46:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51231) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alvf2-0008Ib-Qd for 23144@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 05:46:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alvew-000691-Ly for 23144@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 05:46:31 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57656) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alves-00068V-VJ; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 05:46:26 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2845 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1alves-0005UE-5Q; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 05:46:26 -0400 In-reply-to: <56FE27E2.2030307@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Fri, 01 Apr 2016 09:48:50 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115832 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 09:48:50 +0200 > From: martin rudalics > Cc: 23144@debbugs.gnu.org, Matthias Clasen > > I think we have two possibilites to deal with this issue: Ignore it or > implement a fix. If we ignore it, we might run into difficulties later > when gtk developers eventually decide to apply the change in question or > we find a case where our code does not DTRT anyway. As Eli already > mentioned, after Jan's departure nobody here is in grade to maintain the > gtk interface reliably. > > If we try to fix it, we could possibly rely on Matthias to give us clues > on how to proceed and what to do if the fix causes problems. If the fix > goes into master, there are chances that any such problems will pass by > unnoticed for some time since currently most people here seem to use the > release version. How about the following course: . On master, accept what Matthias suggests and deal with bug reports if and when they come. . On the release branch, provide some safe workaround, triggered by an option users could set if they encounter this problem with a future GTK version. This assumes such a safe workaround is possible, of course; I thought along the lines of the user specifying the initial size explicitly in some way. Would that work?