From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal Date: Sun, 01 May 2016 21:38:11 +0300 Message-ID: <83h9ehmxnw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <874mai4qhz.fsf@gnus.org> <83a8kao624.fsf@gnu.org> <270c962c-11c4-4b0c-9d62-211cbc6f9f47@default> <87y47t256w.fsf@gnus.org> <8337q1olk5.fsf@gnu.org> <9c426b06-f6d9-64f8-0581-6ce221676348@yandex.ru> <20160501182438.GB95345@breton.holly.idiocy.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462127946 3790 80.91.229.3 (1 May 2016 18:39:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 18:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jwiegley@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Alan Third Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 01 20:39:02 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1awwGj-0000VT-SH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 May 2016 20:39:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33983 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awwGZ-0000nr-6m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 May 2016 14:38:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52936) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awwGH-0000bY-2H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2016 14:38:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awwG5-0003cO-Fg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2016 14:38:27 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57910) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awwG5-0003be-Ct; Sun, 01 May 2016 14:38:21 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2813 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1awwFw-0001pc-Qp; Sun, 01 May 2016 14:38:13 -0400 In-reply-to: <20160501182438.GB95345@breton.holly.idiocy.org> (message from Alan Third on Sun, 1 May 2016 19:24:38 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203503 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 19:24:38 +0100 > From: Alan Third > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Lars Ingebrigtsen , > jwiegley@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > I semi-regularly list large directories on remote Windows shares and > Emacs's built-in ls is so slow as to be useless. I have to use a > Windows native version of ls that someone's written. If that > capability was removed I'd hope that some work was done on Emacs > performance. For remote (i.e. networked) volumes, there's nothing that can be done to speed that up. Network volumes are slow, period. Your native 'ls' simply shortcuts and thuis fails to retrieve some attributes Emacs doesn't, that's all. TANSTAAFL.