From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to view raw text in Emacs? Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 15:59:12 +0300 Message-ID: <83h8oo1of3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <874lkpv5wa.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <87h8opjqro.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <877epkiq6f.fsf@bsb.me.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1523019478 5169 195.159.176.226 (6 Apr 2018 12:57:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 12:57:58 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 06 14:57:53 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f4QwC-0001DU-BY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2018 14:57:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53741 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f4QyH-0003A7-VY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2018 09:00:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42406) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f4Qxa-00038Q-2Z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2018 08:59:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f4QxX-0001h0-2A for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2018 08:59:18 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48184) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f4QxW-0001gt-TL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2018 08:59:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4903 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1f4QxW-0006tD-9P for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2018 08:59:14 -0400 In-reply-to: <877epkiq6f.fsf@bsb.me.uk> (message from Ben Bacarisse on Fri, 06 Apr 2018 11:29:12 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116372 Archived-At: > From: Ben Bacarisse > Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 11:29:12 +0100 > > >> If Emacs already has a buffer which is visiting the file, you > >> get the existing buffer, regardless of whether it was created > >> literally or not. > > > > "Same buffer" doesn't mean the same contents. When the file is > > already being visited, you can get the same buffer, but its contents > > will be erased and populated anew with literally what's in the file, > > without any conversions. > > That paragraph started with the sentence "You cannot absolutely rely on > this function to result in visiting the file literally." It no longer says that, I fixed that misleading text. > but I think the warning is specifically about using > find-file-literally in a program You shouldn't use that function in a program, you should use insert-file-contents-literally instead. > when called interactively (at least in 25.1.1) I get a warning that > emacs can only visit a file in one way at a time and I am prompted > whether to "revisit" the file (so to speak) or take the existing > buffer. Yes, and that's the important part the doc string failed to tell. Now it does.