From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Drop the Copyright Assignment requirement for Emacs Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 15:22:09 +0300 Message-ID: <83h7wpfgcu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <97DA7804-F647-4A1D-B8E0-AFFE7A324C64@gmail.com> <87d07xamrg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878silajdl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tv18pyh4.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83zhaih0oz.fsf@gnu.org> <83pnbegsvm.fsf@gnu.org> <83imh5hby1.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8qxjpka.fsf@mbork.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="103201"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Marcin Borkowski Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 09 14:23:19 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jXOVj-000Qji-CE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 14:23:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43710 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXOVh-0003CH-Un for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 08:23:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35950) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXOUn-0001Yo-AE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 08:22:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51364) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXOUn-0001rg-1J; Sat, 09 May 2020 08:22:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2568 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jXOUk-0004VP-JC; Sat, 09 May 2020 08:22:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87o8qxjpka.fsf@mbork.pl> (message from Marcin Borkowski on Sat, 09 May 2020 13:49:54 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249412 Archived-At: > From: Marcin Borkowski > Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 13:49:54 +0200 > > On 2020-05-09, at 11:48, João Távora wrote: > > > Finally, above practical aspects, assigning copyright is declaring > > support for an idea larger than the FSF itself. It's a political > > declaration. > > Could someone officially confirm or deny the above paragraph? I can. And also you can (as can anyone who has ever signed those papers). You have the contract in your hands, you received it after signing your copy. There's nothing in copyright assignment except what's written in that contract. Since you've signed it, I take it that you read it and agreed with what it says. There's nothing there about any declaration. Simply re-read the text you signed to realize that. I'm guessing João was talking about the perception of the assignment by some people. Not about what it actually is or how it is interpreted by the FSF. > So, if someone treats my signature of the copyright assignment as > a "political declaration" of support to FSF's or rms' views, I would > like to make it absolutely clear that this is not the case. They cannot treat it as such, since the document has no words to that effect.