From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: dired-do-find-regexp failure with latin-1 encoding
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 20:42:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83h7p8knso.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1de2844-c4b8-1707-8eb6-86f09bda49db@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 29 Nov 2020 19:32:17 +0200)
> Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 19:32:17 +0200
>
> If the calls to the conversion program are done in parallel to the
> subsequent searches, reading the file twice might not be a problem (with
> the benefit of a disk cache).
How do you mean "in parallel"? You cannot start searching until you
decide on the encoding, so it must not be in parallel.
> >> How does Emacs do it? Does it read until the end of the file?
> >
> > No, just a small initial part of it. That's one reason why the
> > results are not guaranteed to be correct.
>
> But if we consider that approach good enough for Emacs, it should
> probably be good enough for doing a search from inside Emacs.
It's good enough when the encoding is the locale's codeset, and in a
few other (not very important) cases. For an arbitrary combination of
file's encoding and locale's codeset, the result can be wrong every
single time.
And searching in non-ASCII files whose encoding is not the locale's
native one is precisely the case where this will fail. Granted, it's
a relatively rare use case, but when it does happen, all bets are off.
So reading just a small part, as Emacs does, will yield similar
percentage of wrong guesses.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-29 18:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-28 18:03 dired-do-find-regexp failure with latin-1 encoding Stephen Berman
2020-11-28 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28 18:46 ` Stephen Berman
2020-11-28 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28 19:44 ` Stephen Berman
2020-11-28 19:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28 20:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-28 20:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28 21:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29 0:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29 15:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 16:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29 17:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 17:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-11-29 19:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 15:14 ` Yuri Khan
2020-11-29 15:36 ` Stephen Berman
2020-11-29 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 16:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 17:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29 17:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 17:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 19:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 19:49 ` Stephen Berman
2020-11-29 19:49 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-29 19:37 ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-30 1:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-30 20:54 ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-01 0:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
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