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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: dired-do-find-regexp failure with latin-1 encoding
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 20:42:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83h7p8knso.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1de2844-c4b8-1707-8eb6-86f09bda49db@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 29 Nov 2020 19:32:17 +0200)

> Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 19:32:17 +0200
> 
> If the calls to the conversion program are done in parallel to the 
> subsequent searches, reading the file twice might not be a problem (with 
> the benefit of a disk cache).

How do you mean "in parallel"?  You cannot start searching until you
decide on the encoding, so it must not be in parallel.

> >> How does Emacs do it? Does it read until the end of the file?
> > 
> > No, just a small initial part of it.  That's one reason why the
> > results are not guaranteed to be correct.
> 
> But if we consider that approach good enough for Emacs, it should 
> probably be good enough for doing a search from inside Emacs.

It's good enough when the encoding is the locale's codeset, and in a
few other (not very important) cases.  For an arbitrary combination of
file's encoding and locale's codeset, the result can be wrong every
single time.

And searching in non-ASCII files whose encoding is not the locale's
native one is precisely the case where this will fail.  Granted, it's
a relatively rare use case, but when it does happen, all bets are off.

So reading just a small part, as Emacs does, will yield similar
percentage of wrong guesses.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-29 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-28 18:03 dired-do-find-regexp failure with latin-1 encoding Stephen Berman
2020-11-28 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28 18:46   ` Stephen Berman
2020-11-28 19:13     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28 19:44       ` Stephen Berman
2020-11-28 19:49         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28 20:16       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-28 20:29         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28 21:04           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29  0:49             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29 15:19               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 16:27                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29 17:18                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 17:32                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29 18:42                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-11-29 19:48                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29 15:06             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 15:14               ` Yuri Khan
2020-11-29 15:36                 ` Stephen Berman
2020-11-29 15:50                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 16:07               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29 17:12                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 17:19                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29 17:25                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 17:44                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29 18:51                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 19:07                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-29 19:32                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 19:34                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 19:49                             ` Stephen Berman
2020-11-29 19:49                           ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-29 19:37             ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-30  1:08               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-30 20:54                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-01  0:34                   ` Dmitry Gutov

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