From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2021 21:51:03 +0300 Message-ID: <83h7drxsdk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <16338bdc2497fc51c6fb6d54ab370bfb@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <8335pmgnjy.fsf@gnu.org> <604da2cb10ac61f2b8b89a02c89056be@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <83a6jtff87.fsf@gnu.org> <5ac7a31cf2959c31c262a3377c736a5a@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <83ilygew7p.fsf@gnu.org> <83fstjdiwl.fsf@gnu.org> <871r534s2o.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfxgx09x.fsf@gmail.com> <83a6jkyrok.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmsf7gb3.fsf@gmail.com> <83mtnjxvxy.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33560"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: psainty@orcon.net.nz, acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 08 20:52:44 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mYuz4-0008UG-Ik for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 20:52:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36586 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYuz3-0002lF-35 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 14:52:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46438) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYuxs-00023J-NK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 14:51:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51666) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYuxs-00045t-Er; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 14:51:28 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3198 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYuxm-00085O-7h; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 14:51:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Fri, 08 Oct 2021 14:16:21 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276578 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: joaotavora@gmail.com, psainty@orcon.net.nz, acm@muc.de, rms@gnu.org, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2021 14:16:21 -0400 > > >> I see no need to push any of this to `emacs-28`, so all my > >> recommendations are for `master` here. > > Then what do you suggest we do on the release branch? > > Absolutely nothing. This is a very minor convenience issue I disagree that it is minor. > and it has no impact at all for now given the absence of code making > use of that new feature. Then the patch you don't like will not have any impact, either. > So I see absolutely no hurry to add such a feature to > Emacs-28 (as opposed to the hurry there was to add > `read-symbol-shorthands` itself). I do see a reason to hurry, because we want to release Emacs 28.1 soon. So if there are no better proposals, we will stay with the patch you don't like on the release branch. It is fine with me not to merge it to master, or do something else on master, though.