From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14582: 24.3.50.1; Strange overlay behavior, when window-start is inside an overlay. Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2022 05:34:49 +0200 Message-ID: <83h79i6iw6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y5ajmcwk.fsf@gnu.org> <83sj0rmat2.fsf@gnu.org> <83r4gbm991.fsf@gnu.org> <87czk87vmo.fsf@gnus.org> <87k0egwxk6.fsf@web.de> <83k0eg7y23.fsf@gnu.org> <87sft37nmo.fsf@web.de> <83a6fb90zy.fsf@gnu.org> <87h79j2srb.fsf@web.de> <83pmo678o1.fsf@gnu.org> <87iltynkbg.fsf@web.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13701"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, esabof@gmail.com, 14582@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 02 05:31:03 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nF7IM-0003QV-JV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2022 05:31:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46750 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nF7IL-0000U1-62 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 23:31:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44856) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nF6QA-0003fH-0B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 22:35:13 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:57185) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nF6Q9-0002KC-N1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 22:35:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nF6Q9-0008Pe-LY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 22:35:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2022 03:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14582 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 14582-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14582.164377289532321 (code B ref 14582); Wed, 02 Feb 2022 03:35:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14582) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2022 03:34:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51082 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nF6Q2-0008PF-Ul for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 22:34:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38098) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nF6Q1-0008P2-G5 for 14582@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 22:34:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=52280 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nF6Pw-0002Hu-4a; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 22:34:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=uurZCHHIzNy6hsKUwPR0Q3EDX+5JVe3AEyVtBiCtzh4=; b=msd02b3tPxwp gGOBDhpebN7Fo3MxhycVtQlUsG2PmAlVhpVBoQ9H4lTy7ctQSu43eFyS/NcjlsBwtJHqdYf68wmr9 fUPYfD1SyweltcRiamKMe9FG/oyQdUarHrvYFAd8/kJsN88eBmwlpHRJcn4bogDhpBA2ljy3Zzjf6 ImPIsCg5F/TtjxyJCr7zf4bHuTkHF5pHJPtSBnC/CwQxFF4k0Ut45ugO3A1fs+Aj0XvAEBKjvyunX 3sO/wGYXdfOHnnaUKjQltoMMmLDj2tTGbr1qkIvAWeJucO8ryTbFCdWdREjxuzBDWU32S72Mzfmid ZlgRtElA6fj6m6IMqDZiSw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2366 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nF6Pv-00005x-Li; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 22:34:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87iltynkbg.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Wed, 02 Feb 2022 02:12:03 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:225776 Archived-At: > From: Michael Heerdegen > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, esabof@gmail.com, 14582@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2022 02:12:03 +0100 > > Let's extend the discussion to invisible text in general - hideshow is > only one application of invisible text. Are there cases where the > current behavior makes sense and is expected? More sense than the > behavior I expect? How can we know? There's any number of Lisp programs out there using invisible properties. Starting with Org. > I ask because you said that the display engine can't know the intention. > Does it have to? Why can't the credo just be "always ensure complete > visual lines are displayed"? Because a Lisp program may wish otherwise.