From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Changing value for fill-column Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2022 18:32:55 +0300 Message-ID: <83h71wxu1k.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83r110xxt5.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtboxwsv.fsf@gnu.org> <83ilmcxv8i.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29017"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 28 17:33:14 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oSKHi-0007KA-Fw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 17:33:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52990 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oSKHh-000666-CW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 11:33:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46526) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oSKH9-00065d-CD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 11:32:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56530) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oSKH9-000418-40 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 11:32:39 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=0fOCCEaSg26nqHzwzuUI8GXxxUbtvYM/C7NJ4hgYVCo=; b=UJ7i62tGuQvU DT5R+PoWEmKmGFhLtJjmY7oPDLm2eTilZSfuKxneS36bsZBS95hP4e4qKTNu45mKwefm861wcHm5L uz9xctBRp1IaPxFUezZka0/HObQOqblLb72gl/IisOUo6pEQrRGdZ//u5GiLDTUekdPwoj1G8mBJd zuE7lVQ1Xi383IcDRrV3zQZykctPEtrSPLXDv1Zo8d0KeEqwIIoyK1nnuPdkTmaUAwe4Nb0cuRgH7 GuX+2tUGeZcJ7Vz0um512o6J6Ct7kNwL473GF5jRjKtg9iOs60voG+Z7cy+NAzErO8ipJ2p5Qtpak m07VahXhol2NN1NZQHZOhg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4105 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oSKH8-0007y1-FM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 11:32:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: (wilnerthomas@tutanota.com) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:139136 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2022 17:14:25 +0200 (CEST) > From: wilnerthomas@tutanota.com > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > > Aug 28, 2022, 15:07 by eliz@gnu.org: > > >> But I want to change the value even if buffer has its own value for fill-column > >> > > If you do that in your init file, no buffer will have a local value > > yet. > > > How do these local values get set when users do not perform setq-default in their init file? > Some modes set them up if there is no mode-hook for it already? Modes don't set these variables; users do. setq-default sets the default value, and that default value will be in effect in every new buffer, unless someone -- you -- changes the value in that buffer. Since you want the same different value in all buffers, you will probably not set the value in individual buffers, and thus the default which you changed with setq-default will stay in effect.