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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: 58634@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net
Subject: bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 09:26:14 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83h6zwv0ft.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y1L84BbLQV0tKbFN@ACM> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Fri, 21 Oct 2022 20:11:12 +0000)

> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 20:11:12 +0000
> Cc: juri@linkov.net, 58634@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
> 
> > I'm even okay with adding a hook after each buffer is restored, if
> > that will make you happy.  I just don't want these messages (or
> > anything similar) show by default, because no one wants them badly
> > enough.
> 
> As a general principle:
> 
>     When an operation can take a while to finish, you should inform the
>     user about the progress it makes.  This way the user can estimate
>     remaining time and clearly see that Emacs is busy working, not hung.
> 
> [Emacs Lisp manual, page "Progress"]

In my configurations, desktop.el upholds that promise.

If you are unhappy even with the additional hook proposal (you didn't
say), then I guess we have nothing more to discuss here that could be
useful.

> What is a mystery is how desktop.el could have survived so long without
> the progress indication recommended by the Elisp manual.

Once again, when I restore my sessions, I see a flurry of messages
that inform me of what's going on.  And my sessions are very large, so
they take a relatively long time to restore.

There's nothing wrong with desktop.el per se, not in the common use
cases.

> > We may not know how common the display issue is, but we do know how
> > common the irritation is: extremely uncommon, to say the least.
> 
> We do not know.  All we know is that few people have complained

"Few" as in "none".

Again, this part of the discussion is not useful.  If an additional
hook could fulfill your needs, please feel free to install such a
change, and let's move on to more important stuff.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-22  6:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-19 13:28 bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-19 15:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-19 19:11   ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-19 19:58     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-20  5:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-20 10:55         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-20 13:07           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-20 15:28             ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-20 16:28               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21  8:59                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-21 11:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 12:40                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-21 13:22                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 14:15                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-21 15:23                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 15:42                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-21 15:57                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 17:15                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-21 18:12                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 19:01                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-21 19:14                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 20:11                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-22  6:26                                           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-10-22 12:20                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-22 13:11                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-23 15:22                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-23 16:23                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-23 18:58                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-23 19:11                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-26 16:35                                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-26 16:38                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-26 19:39                                                           ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-27  5:19                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 19:09                       ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-22 17:46                     ` Juri Linkov
2022-10-22 18:33                       ` Eli Zaretskii

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