From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: spacibba@aol.com, arne_bab@web.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Indentation and gc
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 14:51:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83h6uou842.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a60grf9t.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Mon, 13 Mar 2023 12:45:34 +0000)
> From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
> Cc: spacibba@aol.com, arne_bab@web.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 12:45:34 +0000
>
> > If you specify a larger value, garbage collection will
> > happen less often. This reduces the amount of time spent garbage
> > collecting, but increases total memory use. You may want to do
> > this when running a program that creates lots of Lisp data.
> > However, we recommend against increasing the threshold for
> > prolonged periods of time, and advise that you never set it higher
> > than needed for the program to run in reasonable time. Using
> > thresholds higher than necessary could potentially cause
> > system-wide memory pressure, and should therefore be avoided.
>
> Unfortunately, if is not very clear how much increasing the threshold
> affects memory usage. What if I increase the threshold twice? Is it
> safe? Dangerous? Maybe 10%? 10x?
How should I know? Does anyone know?
> I guess we can give an answer if we collect usage statistics.
Exactly.
> > Again, you are reasoning about the value as if it were related to the
> > maximum memory footprint Emacs could have. But in fact, it is related
> > only to the _increment_ of memory Emacs can have before it should stop
> > and consider how much of that is garbage.
>
> But how else should I interpret "memory pressure"?
Increasing the threshold indeed increases the danger of memory
pressure, but how exactly is yet unknown. So simplistic
interpretations like this are IMO premature.
> But then there is a warning about memory
> pressure, but it does not look too scary if you have plenty of RAM,
> especially looking at common advises to increase the threshold across
> internet.
Using most-positive-fixnum as the threshold _should_ scare people.
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2023-03-10 11:07 ` Indentation and gc Ergus
2023-03-10 14:36 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-03-10 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 19:23 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-03-11 6:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 6:55 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-03-11 7:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 12:34 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-03-11 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 13:31 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 13:53 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 14:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-12 14:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-12 14:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-12 15:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-12 15:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 15:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-13 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 15:45 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-13 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 18:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-14 12:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-15 10:28 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-15 12:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-15 12:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-15 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-16 10:27 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-06 9:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-08 8:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-08 8:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-08 10:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 17:07 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-14 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 18:14 ` Gregor Zattler
2023-03-14 12:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-14 15:19 ` Gregor Zattler
2023-03-11 16:19 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-03-12 13:27 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-12 14:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-12 14:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-12 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-12 17:15 ` Gregor Zattler
2023-03-12 20:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 15:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-13 15:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 15:39 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-13 15:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 16:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-13 16:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-14 12:47 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-14 13:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-15 10:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-13 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-14 13:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 10:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 11:17 ` Ergus
2023-03-11 11:23 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 12:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 12:39 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 12:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 13:01 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-03-11 13:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 13:38 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 13:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 13:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 14:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 14:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 14:31 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 15:52 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-11 16:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 17:10 ` Gregor Zattler
2023-03-11 17:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 18:35 ` Gregor Zattler
2023-03-11 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 12:45 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-13 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-06-14 14:16 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-14 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-14 15:58 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-14 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 10:00 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-16 10:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 11:03 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-16 11:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-21 10:37 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-21 11:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 13:00 ` Po Lu
2023-03-11 12:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 13:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 13:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 14:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 21:30 ` Ergus
2023-03-11 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-21 7:11 ` Jean Louis
2023-03-21 7:27 ` Emanuel Berg
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