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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: smtpmail and ~/.authinfo
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:38:35 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83fwjhf4dw.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871uv1igui.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>

> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:41:09 +0900
> 
> Ted Zlatanov writes:
> 
>  > I appreciate all the details and corrections; I thought UTF-8 was
>  > better and more widely useful than it really is.
> 
> Please hang on to that impression.  UTF-8 really is the best thing
> since sliced bread

FWIW, I agree.

> Although in many localizations, Windows defaults to something other
> than UTF-8 (AFAIK) for most text operations (including file system
> access etc)

To set the record straight: AFAIK there's not a single locale where
Windows uses UTF-8 as the default encoding.  Internal operations all
use UTF-16, and file names are encoded by the NTFS filesystem in
UTF-16 (FAT32 uses the locale-specific encoding, and thus can support
only the characters in that encoding).  Clipboard works in UTF-16.
Etc. etc.

> most Windows text applications do fine with UTF-8.

True.  Even Notepad can.  There's a single exception, though: the
shell (a.k.a. console) window.  I cannot get "emacs -nw" on Windows
use UTF-8 as its terminal encoding, nor have other Windows programs
display UTF-8 in the console window.  There's a UTF-8 codepage
allegedly supported by Windows, but if I set the console window to use
that codepage, I get gibberish or a crashed application.  Maybe I'm
doing something wrong.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-28  8:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-20 10:26 smtpmail and ~/.authinfo Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-21  4:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-21  6:12   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-21 19:25     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-21 19:59       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-21 20:17         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-22  5:35           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-10 19:01             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-25 12:33         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-25 12:48           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-25 13:21             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-25 17:08               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-26 14:41                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-26 16:18                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-26 16:53                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-26 17:15                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-26 17:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-26 17:31                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-26 17:00                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-26 17:28                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-26 21:27                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-26 18:04               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-26 19:22                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-26 19:30                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-26 19:48                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-26 21:31                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-26 21:43                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-26 21:54                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-27  4:07                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-09-27  6:11                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-27 10:29                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-27 12:33                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-09-27 20:15                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-28  1:41                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-09-28  8:38                                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-09-26 21:55                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-27  2:57                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-27 10:38                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-27 11:31                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-27 12:55                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-27 14:02                             ` Jason Rumney
2011-09-26 19:34                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-26 19:40                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-27  2:51                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-27 13:54                   ` Jason Rumney

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