From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug#10385: e binding in info-mode Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:07:48 +0200 Message-ID: <83fwfsoluz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <201112272237.pBRMbo8C022896@freefriends.org> <62fwftxnbz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325866262 21302 80.91.229.12 (6 Jan 2012 16:11:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 16:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 06 17:10:56 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RjCNa-0002s1-Kl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 17:10:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44335 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjCNa-00038T-0J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 11:10:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57238) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjCNW-00038D-Pb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 11:10:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjCNV-0001rh-TG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 11:10:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:38821) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjCNV-0001rd-LY; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 11:10:49 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LXD00K00WO51R00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:09:54 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.115.90]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LXD00J42WWESPC0@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:09:51 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147404 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 07:54:16 -0800 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Consider too that `Info-edit' has been bound to `e' for decades - just as long > as `b' has been bound to `beginning-of-buffer'. > > Clearly that choice of bindings was not simply an oversight or accident. Those > who decided this originally surely thought about it - `e' corresponding to `b' > is an obvious thing to consider. AFAIK, that binding and its command go back to when there was no makeinfo to produce Info from the Texinfo sources, and Info files were created by hand. That time is long gone. That said, I agree that the change should have been preceded by an attempt to see at least whether there are any objections. > And if user-visible changes _are_ decided on then they should be mentioned in > NEWS. I agree. There is such a NEWS entry about this particular change.