From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12881: Assume at least POSIX.1-1988 for fcntl.h Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:44:40 +0200 Message-ID: <83fw494f3r.fsf@gnu.org> References: <50A34A56.9080007@cs.ucla.edu> <83y5i4t7gm.fsf@gnu.org> <50A48C67.7020603@cs.ucla.edu> <83ip96u5ic.fsf@gnu.org> <50A54B89.2080505@cs.ucla.edu> <83mwyhswqo.fsf@gnu.org> <83obix4jwz.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353087985 27060 80.91.229.3 (16 Nov 2012 17:46:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 12881@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 16 18:46:34 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TZPzt-0003A4-7v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:46:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53476 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TZPzj-00005H-3T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:46:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53810) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TZPze-0008VR-6j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:46:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TZPzb-0002ee-4h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:46:18 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:38461) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TZPzb-0002ea-19 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:46:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TZQ0M-0006lm-Ej for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:47:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12881 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 12881-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12881.135308796425954 (code B ref 12881); Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12881) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2012 17:46:04 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48712 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TZPzO-0006kY-UC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:46:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:48960) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TZPzL-0006k8-V4 for 12881@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:46:00 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MDL00D00D8U7L00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 12881@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:45:11 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MDL00DG2DBA6Z10@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:45:11 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67013 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 12881@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:10:11 -0500 > > >> > But as for Eli's comment, he's quite right in saying that, when things > >> > break, he's the only one to fix them. Many of the recent changes that > >> > have broken Windows need to be fixed by someone who's not only > >> > well-versed on Windows development, but also POSIX. Unfortunately the > >> > number of people with that skill set is tiny among Emacs developers, > >> > I think. > >> Yes, indeed. I find it a bit scary, actually, > > It's not. > > I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. What scares me is the > "what would happen without Eli?". That scares me as well.