From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21734: 25.0.50; cursor-in-non-selected-windows set to nil in gnus-article-mode for no apparent reason Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 18:03:15 +0200 Message-ID: <83fux4se2k.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y4ev15db.fsf@gmail.com> <87mvuygomp.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <83oafdy93j.fsf@gnu.org> <83io5ly6yo.fsf@gnu.org> <87ziyvp444.fsf@gmail.com> <874mdlcbmy.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1454861063 5487 80.91.229.3 (7 Feb 2016 16:04:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 16:04:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21734@debbugs.gnu.org, ohwoeowho@gmail.com, Reiner.Steib@gmx.de To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 07 17:04:12 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aSRop-0004Hh-Lr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 17:04:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35903 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSRoo-0001MU-W4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 11:04:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48351) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSRok-0001Lp-Dz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 11:04:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSRog-0002NI-M2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 11:04:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57001) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSRog-0002NE-Gz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 11:04:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSRof-00089A-Vn; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 11:04:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 16:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21734 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 21734-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21734.145486103331301 (code B ref 21734); Sun, 07 Feb 2016 16:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21734) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2016 16:03:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37356 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSRoU-00088l-UN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 11:03:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57292) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSRoQ-00088W-Uz for 21734@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 11:03:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSRoL-0002Jv-3Q for 21734@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 11:03:41 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57295) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSRoF-0002JK-NF; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 11:03:35 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4050 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aSRoE-0002FA-U5; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 11:03:35 -0500 In-reply-to: <874mdlcbmy.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 07 Feb 2016 16:50:13 +1100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:112627 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: 21734@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Reiner.Steib@gmx.de > Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 16:50:13 +1100 > > Oleh Krehel writes: > > > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > > > >> Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> > >>> If that's the reason, IMO it definitely should be up to the user to > >>> decide whether the inactive cursor annoys her or not. > >> > >> But the default should be the reasonable one from a UX standpoint. > > > > I didn't find it reasonable. I have tried hundreds of major modes and > > was genuinely surprised to find the single one that has this setting. > > At first, I thought it was a bug, since I never touched > > `cursor-in-non-selected-windows` in my config, then I traced it to the > > mode's definition. > > Well, it's been that way for a decade, and you're the first person to > find it surprising (that I can recall). So I'm closing this bug report. FWIW, I think that'd be a mistake. It isn't hard to add a user option (set it to whatever you want by default), so that those rare users who want could customize this behavior.