From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Tom <adatgyujto@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why does the tutorial talk about C-n/C-p etc?
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:12:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83fuvyn6w8.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <loom.20160310T065129-806@post.gmane.org> (message from Tom on Thu, 10 Mar 2016 05:54:23 +0000 (UTC))
> From: Tom <adatgyujto@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 05:54:23 +0000 (UTC)
>
> Evgeny Panasyuk <evgeny.panasyuk <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> >
> > 10.03.2016 0:32, Tim Cross :
> > > Emacs has an audience/user base, but to believe that equals the set of
> > > all people who use editors is a mistake. Some people just want a very
> > > simple editor which is easy to use and only does basic editing - there
> > > are plenty of these editors.
> >
> > IMO larger user base, including "casual" users, would not harm Emacs.
> >
>
> Indeed. Therefore the tutorial for new users should emphasize features
> which are better in emacs compared to other tools.
>
> C-p and co. are not better, they are just different and not very
> ergonomical either.
Why are we continue to argue? The tutorial clearly states that arrow
keys can be used, and I don't think users of today's computers need to
be taught how to use the arrow keys. So what's exactly the problem?
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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-09 15:38 Why does the tutorial talk about C-n/C-p etc? Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-09 15:50 ` jpff
2016-03-09 15:50 ` Oleh Krehel
2016-03-09 16:03 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-03-09 18:25 ` Yuri Khan
2016-03-10 20:28 ` Alexey Veretennikov
2016-03-09 16:48 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-09 18:26 ` Yuri Khan
2016-03-09 19:05 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-09 19:07 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-09 19:21 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-10 5:48 ` Tom
2016-03-09 16:12 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-09 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 17:11 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-03-09 20:22 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-09 21:32 ` Tim Cross
2016-03-09 21:42 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-10 0:30 ` Evgeny Panasyuk
2016-03-10 5:54 ` Tom
2016-03-10 7:12 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-03-10 12:49 ` Evgeny Panasyuk
2016-03-10 21:22 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-10 21:39 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-10 22:06 ` Evgeny Panasyuk
2016-03-12 1:53 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-10 6:46 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-10 9:58 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-10 10:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10 14:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-10 15:07 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-10 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10 15:48 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-03-10 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10 17:47 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-03-11 11:21 ` Filipp Gunbin
2016-03-11 11:38 ` Yuri Khan
2016-03-11 14:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-11 16:57 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-11 17:34 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-03-11 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-11 22:00 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-12 6:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-12 7:17 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-03-12 23:30 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-12 23:26 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-12 1:52 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-10 23:26 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-11 2:10 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-11 8:01 ` Dani Moncayo
2016-03-13 10:54 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2016-03-13 17:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-11 16:45 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-12 19:25 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-12 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 11:36 ` Tom
2016-03-13 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 17:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-13 17:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 18:41 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-13 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 19:14 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-13 20:27 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-03-14 12:16 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-14 14:14 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-15 15:19 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-13 19:46 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-13 20:15 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-14 12:15 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-14 12:15 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-14 16:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-12 21:34 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-12 23:33 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-12 1:50 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-12 19:14 ` Chad Brown
2016-03-12 21:05 ` Evgeny Panasyuk
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