From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should we restore manually maintained ChangeLogs Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 20:50:37 +0200 Message-ID: <83fuvykw02.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56DDD02A.20809@cs.ucla.edu> <83fuw2t2ue.fsf@gnu.org> <56DE0F6A.6010207@cs.ucla.edu> <83pov5rmt6.fsf@gnu.org> <56DFD78F.40205@cs.ucla.edu> <56E06093.7050509@cs.ucla.edu> <83twkfo7ij.fsf@gnu.org> <20160309181005.GF3948@acm.fritz.box> <87vb4vuu59.fsf@thinkpad.rath.org> <87pov3nrnm.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <83mvq6n7xs.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1r2mzuy.fsf@gnu.org> <8360wumxj4.fsf@gnu.org> <56E1A228.6040602@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457635895 4910 80.91.229.3 (10 Mar 2016 18:51:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 18:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 10 19:51:24 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ae5gB-00016D-0n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 19:51:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50627 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae5g5-000835-JE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:51:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43400) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae5fG-0007E6-JH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:50:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae5fD-0000Du-E8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:50:26 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47257) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae5fD-0000Dq-AM; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:50:23 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2265 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ae5fC-0006PI-JO; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:50:23 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:17:06 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201417 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:17:06 -0500 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > I'm not a fan of 'git replace' for the same reason I'm not a fan of changing > > history in general. > > Indeed, "git replace" is a lot more powerful than I'd like. > > I don't consider commit messages as being part of "what happened" but > rather as a description of what happened (i.e. what historiographers > write). So, I'm perfectly fine with "git replace" used on > commit messages. That's my view as well, although having heard about this command just today admittedly doesn't give my view too much weight. > > I don't plan to use it and won't recommend it to others. However, if > > allowing its usage is the price we need to pay for Eli's agreement > > then I'm willing to pay that price. > > Is there some way to control its usage? I think we also need to test-drive it before we decide to use it. I hope someone will try that and report back.