From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23236: 25.0.90; Document command remapping in Emacs manual, not just Elisp manual Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2016 19:49:48 +0300 Message-ID: <83fuuxl5xv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <<24ddcbf0-337e-401f-a539-4d957030236b@default>> <<83h9fdl9m9.fsf@gnu.org>> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1460048175 16187 80.91.229.3 (7 Apr 2016 16:56:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 16:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23236@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 07 18:56:05 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aoDDw-0008VE-P0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 18:56:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51465 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoDDw-0004YF-84 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 12:56:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45581) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoD98-0003vm-Hf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 12:51:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoD95-0001c6-2J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 12:51:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:40795) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoD94-0001bz-TQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 12:51:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aoD94-00040o-ON for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 12:51:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2016 16:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23236.146004781615368 (code B ref 23236); Thu, 07 Apr 2016 16:51:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Apr 2016 16:50:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53132 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aoD8J-0003zn-Op for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 12:50:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54307) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aoD8I-0003zc-CS for 23236@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 12:50:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoD89-0001R9-VC for 23236@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 12:50:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38565) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoD89-0001R4-Rv; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 12:50:05 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2989 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aoD89-0006ag-4u; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 12:50:05 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 7 Apr 2016 08:58:24 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:116167 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 08:58:24 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 23236@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Search the Emacs manual for "remap". You will find nothing about > > > command remapping. > > > > Because it's not a user-level feature. > > I disagree. Why do you say it is not? Are users not supposed to > remap commands? Users that code in Lisp are. Users that don't aren't. > If they are, then what could you possibly mean > by saying that doing so is not "user-level"? It's not for users who don't write Lisp code. > Binding keys is an extremely common end-user task. (Yes, it is. > It is 100% "user-level", in addition to being something that is > done in non-user files.) And it is virtually impossible without writing Lisp.