From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Recent commit modifying mark-whole-buffer (master/aeb613ea95b7970e66d663ec5cba54e9ec0528fa) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:28:01 +0300 Message-ID: <83fuu4wnmm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87lh3x4dkb.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpngx69z.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuu4bo3y.fsf@gnus.org> <83inz0wprx.fsf@gnu.org> <87shy4a8d4.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1461936539 12669 80.91.229.3 (29 Apr 2016 13:28:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:28:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stephan.Mueller@microsoft.com To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 29 15:28:44 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aw8TM-0008V2-H8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:28:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54389 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aw8TI-0006Gy-Rf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:28:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41597) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aw8TA-00065Y-HZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:28:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aw8Sy-0001g9-Q3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:28:27 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53468) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aw8Sy-0001fD-Nw; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:28:20 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4592 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aw8Ss-0001u3-NL; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:28:15 -0400 In-reply-to: <87shy4a8d4.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:48:39 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203416 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Stephan.Mueller@microsoft.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:48:39 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> I assumed it was an uncontroversial fix -- there are many commands that > >> work differently in the minibuffer exactly because we don't want to > >> include the prompt. > > > > Fix of what problem? I was saying that the problem is not clear to > > me? > > Well, the problem was that mark-whole-buffer marked the prompt in the > minibuffer. :-) And why is that a problem? The prompt _is_ part of the buffer text. > >> I don't quite follow. If you want to mark the prompt, there's a > >> gazillion ways of doing that, including `C-u C-a C-'. Or just hold > >> down `'. :-) > > > > Are we mis-communicating? I thought the suggestion on the table, to > > which I objected, was to make the prompt have a property that would > > preclude doing all these things. > > > >> (By the way, I think it would be nice if `' didn't enter the > >> prompt.) > > > > And I don't understand why you think so. We were allowed to do so for > > eons, why suddenly change that? > > I think we must be miscommunicating. On the one hand you seem to be > suggesting that we should make the prompt more special than it is now, > and on the other hand, you seem to be suggesting that we shouldn't, > because we haven't for eons? I didn't suggest any changes, no. The prompt is special, but it doesn't need to be more so.