From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 17:27:09 +0300 Message-ID: <83furki4si.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <87twg2g86g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83eg76n5h5.fsf@gnu.org> <87y45eeoor.fsf@lifelogs.com> <577D42BB.1020500@cs.ucla.edu> <87oa694rfw.fsf@russet.org.uk> <837fcxlbay.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh1d2wg5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83eg75jk5h.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh1cb6p0.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87y45ccj5q.fsf@wanadoo.es> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467988141 18897 80.91.229.3 (8 Jul 2016 14:29:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 14:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 08 16:28:51 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bLWlu-0006gV-VL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 16:28:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45945 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLWlu-0007YF-DF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 10:28:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53653) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLWkY-0005te-5l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 10:27:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLWkS-0003KN-VH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 10:27:25 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47668) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLWkS-0003KH-Rx; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 10:27:20 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3363 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bLWkQ-0007Ex-Qz; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 10:27:19 -0400 In-reply-to: <87y45ccj5q.fsf@wanadoo.es> (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3s?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?car?= Fuentes on Fri, 08 Jul 2016 16:13:21 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205440 Archived-At: > From: Óscar Fuentes > Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 16:13:21 +0200 > > Ted Zlatanov writes: > > > EZ> All the other projects I > > EZ> participate in make it harder, and yet no one complains or thinks they > > EZ> are hard on contributors. > > > > I think there is a confirmation bias there: people tend to believe the > > feedback that confirms their existing views and discount the opposite. > > It is worse: those that think that the process makes things > unnecessarily difficult probably will never contribute and hence you > will never know about their existence, except for some passing comment > on some other forum. Someone will always think that, no matter how low the bar is. And I don't think this is "worse": I'm not sure we want such people on board.