From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: feature/integrated-elpa 4f6df43 15/23: README added Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 20:18:02 +0300 Message-ID: <83funx1qgl.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20160916203414.25203.87032@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <8337k7hysd.fsf@gnu.org> <8660p3qd99.fsf@realize.ch> <831szrhwsr.fsf@gnu.org> <8760p12qzw.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83vax0en1u.fsf@gnu.org> <87pon5ek3q.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87twcgttjf.fsf@russet.org.uk> <86a8e7symk.fsf@realize.ch> <8737jzl4u9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8337jz8dg8.fsf@gnu.org> <83insv3tnl.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1j33qgg.fsf@gnu.org> <87wph96cto.fsf@russet.org.uk> <831szh3iq4.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvi5spl9.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83mvi51y3b.fsf@gnu.org> <87instsfos.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1476552092 22179 195.159.176.226 (15 Oct 2016 17:21:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 17:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 15 19:21:28 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bvSeC-0004tR-Ql for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 19:21:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52755 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bvSeB-0005mt-JS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 13:21:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50335) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bvSbT-0004gA-69 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 13:18:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bvSbN-0000U7-3b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 13:18:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48318) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bvSbN-0000Tj-0E; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 13:18:29 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4942 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bvSbJ-00066U-15; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 13:18:27 -0400 In-reply-to: <87instsfos.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (message from Achim Gratz on Sat, 15 Oct 2016 19:08:35 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208302 Archived-At: > From: Achim Gratz > Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 19:08:35 +0200 > > No, it is not directly related to the directory structure. But Emacs > does collect all first-level autoloads for all elisp ("package" moniker > or not) into a single file, with no provisions to deactivate them when a > newer version of the same in-core package gets installed again. This will have to be solved, of course. We already have some foo-autoloads.el files for some packages; perhaps that would be the solution here as well. > There are probably many different ways to tease this apart, but > treating an in-core package no different than an out-of-core > package, apart from the fact that it comes with the tarball and gets > installed into a different tree has the advantage that it doesn't > need completely new mechanisms to support it. I don't think we will be able to treat these two classes of packages the same. I'm quite sure more and more reasons will pop up as we go. So I believe we will have special treatment for ELPA packages anyway. I just think that the directory in which they live as part of the Emacs tree doesn't have to be part of that special treatment.