From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Can we go GTK-only? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 11:15:17 +0300 Message-ID: <83fungsxd6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <24db2975-17ca-ad01-20c8-df12071fa89a@dancol.org> <83zilpro1f.fsf@gnu.org> <22546.64965.400971.486724@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1477642551 7903 195.159.176.226 (28 Oct 2016 08:15:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 08:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dancol@dancol.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ulrich Mueller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 28 10:15:45 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c02Jw-0006ui-EW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 10:15:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47376 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c02Jx-0008F6-UR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 04:15:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58505) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c02Jn-0008Ek-Jb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 04:15:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c02Jk-0005YO-2u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 04:15:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45763) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c02Jj-0005YJ-Vn; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 04:15:12 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3731 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1c02Jj-0006Af-6G; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 04:15:11 -0400 In-reply-to: <22546.64965.400971.486724@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> (message from Ulrich Mueller on Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:27:01 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208930 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:27:01 +0200 > Cc: Daniel Colascione , emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Ulrich Mueller > > >>>>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > I don't know how wide Motif and Athena are used; IMO we shouldn't > > delete them if they are still in use. E.g., are the major Linux > > distros still offering such packages? > > Gentoo offers both, and looking at metadata in bugs reported to us, it > appears that both of them are used by a significant fraction of users > (in spite of GTK+ being the build option preferred by our ebuilds). Thanks for the data points. > Also, GTK+ (in version 2 or 3) still crashes for multi-tty Emacs, > due to bug 85715 . > Given that this has been reported 14 years ago, my guess is that it > will never be fixed. Yes, that's one reason why I don't think we should put all of our eggs in the GTK+ basket. > Has anyone tried porting Emacs to Qt? :) We talked about it ;-)