From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2018 18:13:29 +0200 Message-ID: <83fu7lbo0m.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838tdiet25.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3li4vh7.fsf@telefonica.net> <87efnan46u.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <86wp12qtgo.fsf@dod.no> <83tvw6chqv.fsf@gnu.org> <86shbprix7.fsf_-_@dod.no> <83608kck4c.fsf@gnu.org> <544c170f-99bd-c701-3063-c697296a30a6@cs.ucla.edu> <83po6rar9c.fsf@gnu.org> <83o9mabwks.fsf@gnu.org> <83mv1ubrlu.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgheb8n8.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1515082813 9049 195.159.176.226 (4 Jan 2018 16:20:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 16:20:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 04 17:20:09 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eX8FU-0001wA-Bq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 17:20:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47533 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eX8HR-0004Mw-Th for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 11:22:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41831) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eX895-0005Cw-Ge for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 11:13:32 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eX891-0001ee-Sg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 11:13:31 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55193) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eX891-0001eX-PE; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 11:13:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3175 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eX891-00041J-7D; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 11:13:27 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Thu, 04 Jan 2018 09:25:25 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:221596 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2018 09:25:25 -0500 > > > Then you have back the problem with branches, since the changes > > in the region will not tell you whether the change was merged or > > backported etc. > > As explained, this is the part of the info that vc-region-history can't > give me, and the reason why I instead have to look at the actual code of > a few releases (usually just one, but potentially more). And as I explained, this method is less efficient than using ChangeLog. > > Anyway, I don't really understand the point you are trying to make. > > If you are saying that ChangeLogs are _never_ useful in these > > situations, then that's a strangely extremist view, and my experience > > is very far from that. > > I'm just pointing out that not only we *can* live without the > ChangeLog files, but that's exactly what I happen to do. And I'm pointing out that using ChangeLog files when they are useful makes the quality of my life higher.