From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Resending email in Gnus, figuring out charset Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 21:15:33 +0200 Message-ID: <83ftwmhqqy.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87in1ktvau.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <87tvl4h2th.fsf@igel.home> <87d0rstpoj.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <83o9bckl57.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh0mlzjm.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1541013246 2997 195.159.176.226 (31 Oct 2018 19:14:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 19:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Adam =?utf-8?Q?Sj=C3=B8gren?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 31 20:14:02 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gHvwI-0000ef-6V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 20:14:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33130 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHvyO-0007RN-JI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:16:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41300) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHvyG-0007R5-Mb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:16:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHvyC-0000i9-QD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:16:04 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41605) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHvy0-0000bJ-2W; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:15:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1939 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gHvxz-0000NP-8H; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:15:47 -0400 In-reply-to: <87sh0mlzjm.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> (message from Adam =?utf-8?Q?Sj=C3=B8gren?= on Wed, 31 Oct 2018 19:51:57 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:230899 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:88214 Archived-At: > From: Adam Sjøgren > Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 19:51:57 +0100 > Cc: ding@gnus.org > > Eli writes: > > >> As I wrote, I get (raw-text no-conversion) > > > This means you have raw bytes in the mail body, so I think the problem > > is elsewhere: where those bytes originated. > > I'm not sure I understand that. > > The Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit header means "raw bytes in the > body", and the Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 explains how > those bytes should be interpreted, right? These headers tell the receiving end how to interpret the message. But I meant something different: what you have in the Gnus buffer _before_ the message is sent. > When I look at the feedbase-email in Gnus, it is displayed as expected, > but when I try to resend it, for some reason Gnus can't guess what the > encoding should be. That's a sign of raw bytes in the buffer. If you go to one of the offending characters in the Gnus buffer and type "C-u C-x =", what does Emacs show about those characters?