From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#44550: 28.0.50; proposal for tabulated-list-mode to provide narrowing incremental search Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 17:35:35 +0200 Message-ID: <83ft5f29fc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <835z6d2oip.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21932"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 44550@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 11 16:37:45 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kcsBs-0005Yy-TR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 16:37:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54796 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcsBr-0001cO-TV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:37:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54084) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcsAG-0008HR-3g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:36:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:59300) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcsAD-0001Nl-Rz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:36:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcsAD-0001Bj-PM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:36:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 15:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44550 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 44550-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44550.16051089354530 (code B ref 44550); Wed, 11 Nov 2020 15:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 44550) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2020 15:35:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42613 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcs9n-0001B0-DJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:35:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53884) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcs9k-0001Ak-VE for 44550@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:35:34 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58680) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcs9f-00018i-MY; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:35:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1663 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kcs9c-0001tJ-LN; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:35:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Tue, 10 Nov 2020 22:57:35 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:193112 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 22:57:35 +0300 > From: Jean Louis > Cc: 44550@debbugs.gnu.org > > - imagine list of items in tabulated-list-mode > > - user press / to open up the feature (real time incremental narrowing) > > - when user starts typing the list of items in tabulated-list-mode are > narrowing themselves visually and in real time. It is very similar > to completion networks. What does "narrowing" mean in this context? What should happen in real time? Do you mean "filtering", i.e. that some items should disappear from view? If so, what criteria should be used to filter out items, and how is that derived from what the user types? I'm still confused regarding the feature you are looking for, and how it relates to completion. > Then I can use it for browsing trees of knowledge and narrowing huge > index lists. Video below shows using tabulated-list-mode to brows the > three of knowledge (17M): > > https://gnu.support/images/2020/11/2020-11-10/2020-11-10-20:10:49.ogv Sorry, cannot watch such videos. > In general I would like to have direct real time incremental narrowing > of collection instead of blowing up minibuffer, making modeline jump > up and down with ivy-mode and splitting windows. > > Interface would be clean just as tabulated-list-mode is and minibuffer > could be used for narrowing. And now I'm completely confused: I thought you were talking about tabulated-list-mode, but now you've made some gigantic leap to much more general issues.